Warhop Gets Help in Foerster
Submitted by FNN Staff on Friday, 15 February 200853 Comments
The San Francisco 49ers hired veteran NFL assistant Chris Foerster on Friday as their offensive line coach, a job he’ll share with embattled incumbent George Warhop.
Foerster spent the last three seasons as the offensive line coach and assistant head coach under Brian Billick in Baltimore. He has been an offensive coordinator with Miami and Minnesota during his 15 seasons in the league, and spent four years as an assistant at Stanford.
Warhop apparently has lost some of his power under new coordinator Mike Martz.
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another head scratcher. maybe we should have two head coaches to share the duties too? hell, maybe we should have three head coaches that can decide on every decision. out of the two offensive line coaches, who will be responsible for determining the depth chart? how will these two guys share the duties? two chiefs in charge never works and it’s not going to work here. this hire makes as much sense as hiring mike martz to lead an offense that has been built to support the run. this team is lost from the top all the way to the bottom.
hey! i’ve got an idea, why doesn’t nolan hire brian billick to be a co-coach? the more former baltimore players and staff the better eh?
Easy guys.. To wendall the Oline coach doesnt decide who starts on the line.. thats up to martz and nolan.. All the Oline coaches do is help with the technique and practices and stuff.. and if you look at how our line played last year.. I think its a CLEAR indication that we need a lil help in that area.. So im all for it… I mean for freakin sakes we couldnt stop a simple stunt and BASIC blitzes.. But all in all good chioce..
i hear you L, but two chiefs in charge of one group of troops rarely works. that’s my issue. how can you have two O line coaches? it doesn’t make sense.
wendell the reason why Nolan got another o-line coach, is because he knows Warhop did terrible last year, but we are keeping warhop because Mike Martz knows him and feels comfortable with him, eventually we might see Warhop get fired depending on our o-line play.
NOLAN DOES KNOW OUR AREAS OF WEAKNESS, AND HE KNOWS MORE THAN WE THINK. He knows when someone isn’t doing something right, and he knows when players have reached the end of their careers, he knows the coaches that should stay and should go, and he knows what to do, the problem with Nolan, is he doesn’t fix problems until the END OF THE SEASON! If Nolan made his changes in the middle of the season, we could be a lot better. He knew that Hostler sucked ass, but he didn’t fire him till the end of the season. Nolan’s weakness is he doesn’t know jack shit about offense, and he doesn’t make changes until the off season. At least he knows how to fix the mistakes. we ahven’t given Nolan a lot of credit, but at least th emoves he is making are giving us playoff hopes for even next season! He knows which OCs are good, every single one he has hired has been good, exception fro Hostler becuz Norv left us to late to sign anyone else! Nolan is a defensive genius, that is buliding a complicated defense very well, he is drafting great players, and I hope we have a winning season next year, just so Nolan can stay, and continue to build this team! His weakness is offense, now he is covering up that weakness with a genius OC!, that is genius itself, adn his other weakness of change should be covered by the changes made this off season.
Mock Draft
James Hardy WR
Quentin Groves ROLB in 3-4
Ahtyba Rubin NT in 3-4
Will Franklin WR
Jacob Hester FB
Colt Brennan QB (don’t be surprised if we pick him Martz sees something we don’t)
Corey Lynch FS special team stud and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQZqkcubYjQ
Free agency:
Jordan Gross RT
Bernard Berrian WR
Lance Briggs ILB in 3-4
ninergold: dude i follow you and i respect nolan. here’s the problem with nolan though. if he was committed to winning last year, he would have fired hostler after the seattle game in which alex was injured. that game was microcosm of the team’s whole year; confusion on the o line, receivers running the wrong route, poor blitz pick ups and so on. if you want to win, you win now. you don’t wait until the end of the season to save hostler’s feelings. this game is about winning championships. it’s about nothing else. i frankly couldn’t care less if he’s comfortable with warhop. from what i can tell, warhop and his personnel did a lousy job last year. commit to a decision and go with it. that’s how you win. you win by being bold not sitting on the fence like nolan has.
i respect your knowledge dude, but i truly question this decision. you say he knows more than we do and you’re right, he does. the problem is with all the knowledge he’s had, he’s never put together a consistent team or winning season. the team regressed under his leadership last year. you judge the man by the wins in the win column and to date, with all of his knowledge, i truly wonder if he knows how to win.
hey, i hope you’re right.
sorry, one more thing. martz isn’t a “genius.” his offense last year (with all the big time players and personnel they have in detroit on offense) finished in 19th spot. considering the talent, that’s inexcusable. it’s also inexcusable that he abandoned the run way too many times which made the team predictable. detroit started quickly last year but it didn’t take the league long to figure out how to play martz’s offense. he’s bringing that shit here.
martz’s style of offense predicates itself on having a pro bowl offensive line, a pro bowl qb, at least two pro bowl wide receivers and an ok tight end. he hasn’t had since his st. louis days and he probably wont’ find a situation like that again. we don’t have the pieces to run his offense.
I understand what you mean, but also we aren’t going to run that same type of offense,he said it himself he is going to create an offense that fits this team, it might have some similarities, but Gore is going to get the ball. The Lions don’t have big time players, they have an Roy Williams a WR that talks trash off the field once in a while and gets injured often, Calvin Johnson, a overyly hyped WR that was having difficulty learning Martz’s offense, Jon Kitna, Lol I’m not getting into that, and than Kevin Jones, he is average RB. We have great Rb, Martz uses the weapons a team has, The Lions had WRs so he used them, The Rams had WRs and a RB and he used them both in a way where they both got the ball (passing). He plays to the strengths of the players. Also the team was always down by 21 points cuz their secondary was like cuttin through swiss cheese, just like our o-line was this year, except they were worse. He was playing from behind, needed to score quickly and the way to score quickly is… passing. Our defense under Nolan at it’s rate of improvement could be a top 15 to even top 10 defense. He won’t have to worry about that. Martz improves offenses period, no matter where he is. The Rams were terrible b4 they got him, they magically got pro bowl players just like that?, no he improved them into the top 3 passing and top 5 rushing attack, after they were the 29th offense the year before. Martz improves offenses period, no matter where he is.
And what you said about Nolan is exactly what I said, he doesn’t make changes like he should right away, which I absolutely hate, which is why he needs to get the changes done in the off season now so we won’t have to worry about him not making changes, bcuz we won’t need them. He is to much of a gentleman, he needs to be more aggressive, he does get more aggressive in the off season though, but by then it is a little to late. Nolan knows nothing about offense like I said also, Hostler was asking Nolan what he wanted and Nolan doesn’t know, Nolan is a d-coordinator in a HC posistion. The defense stops offense, so when a defensive minded coach tries to play offense, he usually makes plays that make stop itslef. With Martz running the reigns with the offense 100%, Nolan can focus on the Defense and make it even better. Mike Holgrem was terrible Head Coach until he got his GM duties removed from him, maybe Nolan is the same way. (hopefully)
Jordan Gross RT Panthers might get Franchised, but still…
General manager Marty Hurney would not comment Wednesday on the whether or not the team will use the tag except to say, “It’s a possibility. But I don’t want to say yes at this point. It’s something we haven’t decided.”
It would have been crazy for the Panthers not to tag Gross given how valuable he is to the team and how difficult it is to find quality offensive tackles in the NFL. Also, if the Panthers didn’t tag Gross, he could sign with any other team at the start of free agency and they would receive no compensation for losing him.
Hurney did say the team is not close to reaching a long-term deal with Gross and wasn’t overly optimistic one would get done anytime soon.
Gross is likely seeking a contract worth an average of at least $7 million per season with more than $18 million in guaranteed money, one that would put him on the same pay scale as last year’s top free agent offensive linemen.
“There’s not been a lot of progress made (in negotiations),” Hurney said. “That said, things can change with one phone call.”
The NFL free agency signing period begins Feb. 29, but teams have until Feb. 21 to use the franchise tag.
Gross, a former first-round draft pick out of Utah, has not missed a start in his five seasons with Carolina and is well respected as a run and pass blocker.
His stronger position seems be right tackle, but it’s entirely possible he could wind up at left tackle if the team is unable to re-sign Travelle Wharton.
(found this at some Carolina website)
niners gold: great points man. no question, it was a different situation in detroit for martz. in the end, i truly question if martz is going to be at the controls if and when the niners win another championship. that’s what it’s all about.
listen, i want to believe that the martz nolan partnership is going to work. i just don’t. when the game gets slightly gets out of hand, this is when martz plays this “casino ball” where the odds are that you’re going to lose.
hey, i hope i’m wrong. i hope everything you said is true man. what you said is believable ninersgold but i personally don’t think it’s probable. here’s to hoping.
The reson why Nolan didn’t fire Hostler right away is the same reason why he hired Hostler in the first place, there was no one else available. If he had fired Hostler in the middle of the season we then would have somebody that he felt was even less capable of the job of running the offense when he hired Hostler. Teams that have OCs fired in the middle of the season have head coaches who came from an OC background, because they are capable of calling the plays themselves, obviously Nolan did not. What would’ve happened if we fired Hostler, we go out and get a proven OC like Jim Fassel or somebody like that, then the team is learning a new offense in the best case two weeks, if the transition takes place during a bye. That just isn’t possible. Just because Nolan didn’t throw him under the bus all year long saying that all the coaches needed to do a better job, doesn’t mean that he was happy with Hostler. He brought in help for Hostler so that obviously shows that he had very little faith in him. I agree that the point of playing is to win, but bringing in a new OC in the middle of the year is not how you win.
I also agree with saying that the team regressed last year from the year before, but they were still much better than they were when Nolan initially arrived. Our team was the worst in the NFL when Nolan took over, by talent and record. They were absolutely awful. Now we have talent and a young defense that with a few additions could become one of the best in the league. The offense still isn’t good, but I think that they will get better as one of our quarterbacks mature. Don’t blame it all on Nolan, the team isn’t going to get better overnight, it was a terrible team and its getting better, greatly due to the fact that Nolan and Scottie Mac have been doing some good things. There are a lot of Free Agents that have the niners near the top of their list on where they want to go. That wouldn’t be the case if Nolan is as inept as you guys make him out to be.
Wendell: you forget that the offensive players in Detroit didn’t shine until Martz showed up. Come on, he made Kitna look like a real qb lol.
Our offensive players are better now than Martz had in Detroit when he started. And I think that he’ll utilize that talent, like he did in Detroit. He did well for not having much to work with.
And well said Msouza i agree 100%
Hey Ninersgold a draft guy on nfl network I think Charles Davis was saying that we were going to draft a offensive lineman with the #1 pick. How munch would that suck? I know we need O-line but we need playmakers that could score TD’s.
Hopefully the Niners get some o-linemen in free agency instead of the draft, our o-line was improving last year at the end of the year,so i’m not worried about it as much. Larry Allen takes to long to get back in shape, so if or when he leaves our o-line will be upgraded, same for Jonas Jennings. The Niners better be looking at Jordan Gross the guy is young and he is a great run blocker and an excellent pass protector, he wants to be payed like an elite LT even though he is an elite RT, ehich is why the Panthers don’t know if he is worth franchising him or not. If he is not the Niners o-line could be upgraded big time with him at RT and Staley at LT, Alex Smith or Shaun Hill would have so much more time in the pocket. The Niners should trade some of there WRs for 4th round picks, and than they could pick up an o-linemen in the draft like Heath benedict, which NFL.com compared him to…. Jordan Gross, he can play OT or OG though, it would give competition to David Baas at the RG. Adam Snyder would be better at playing LG, that is what he played in College, and next to his best friend Staley, they would play great next to each other.
NFL network people don’t know shit about the draft, they think that chris long could be moved to OLB in the 3-4, when everbody else is saying he could play either end in the 4-3 or 3-4 and possiblt Dt in 4-3, he isn’t even fast. The one guy has rashard medehall over darren mcfadden in his RB ratings, the guy must be blind! But also all the NFL network people see is oh this team had 55 sacks, lets get another rookie OT that will make rookie mistakes and allow 10-15 sacks to help them out. It is still early to see who we will draft, we still have free agency first than we see what our needs are after that, butI think my mock draft selecgtions are needs we can’t get from free agency.
I think we should trade Lelie for a 4th round pick (can’t learn routes or catch)
trade darrel jackson for a 4th round pick (can’t catch consistently or barely at all)
We could really use those picks. Also if Antonio Bryant is coming back we might even consider him, he enouraged Smith to fix his mistakes and he was Smith’s favorite target, but if we get him we would probaly also trade Arnaz Battle for a 4th round pick, I don’t know about that. (that is considering if we draft two WRs in the draft such as James Hardy and Will Franklin and get Berrian in Free Agency)
Our WRs could be…
Bernard Berrian
Antonio Bryant
James Hardy
Jason Hill
Will Franklin http://www.gametap.com/home/read/article/2840
“Will Franklin might remind a lot of fans of Torry Holt with his explosiveness on the field, but it’s Holt’s division rival that Franklin grew up following. “My favorite team as a kid was the 49ers, still is. I love the Niners,” he says. “Growing up watching Jerry Rice, there wasn’t anything better.” When I tell him the team can use a few receivers, Franklin just laughs. “I hope I get the chance to go there. To see myself in that uniform, that would be something special.”
Franklin could have the potential to be Torry Holt under Martz, I couldn’t imagine…
Actually maybe put Jason Hill on practice squad and have Battle play there. I just saw some highlights and it made me feel good about him, he could be a good number 3 WR or even 4th. Berrian would be number1 and Hardy could probaly be number 2 wr. Antonio Bryant would probaly not come if we had Berrian so. NFL.com draft prospects section is very good, despite the network people, Franklin can be an instant start at the number 3 wr posistion.
Berrian Hardy Battle Franklin Hill
Forget about bryant, he is kinda of distraction to the team at times. But if we don’t get Berrian we better get Bryant instead, he can still play, he isn’t as fast as Berrian, but he is a fast deep threat.
Ninersgold just think even if we did get Hardy or Franklin Nolan will never let them play. When was the last time a rookie WR has played alot in a season for us? R WR’s sucked last year and Hill never even sniffed alot of playing time I know he had a hamstring problem but even when it got better he still didnt start. Remember Mccoy guy we picked up from the Cardnials why didnt he get a chance?
THE 49ERS NEED TO MAKE A STATEMENT AND GET RID OF THESE AWFUL PLAYERS
DEREK SMITH
BRYAN GILMORE
KWAME HARRIS
TRENT DILFER
EVEN D. JACKSON
agreed, also the reason why mccoy didn’t start for us was… he sucked. He is a terrible WR, why did we even pick him up i don’t know. Jason Hill was having difficulty learning the offense, so we didn’t start him. Hill could be a great starter, he has great hands, and his speed is decent, I saw his college highlights. He could be great for us and under Martz. Darrel jackson and Lelie have to go, Lelie didn’t start for a reason, he can’t remenber which routes he is supposed to run, athletic talent, but he doesn’t have the brains. Darrel Jackson has the brains, but his talent has faded away, and he has never had good hands, only good at cathcing short passes, which is why he played good with Shaun HIll. We need those draft picks, I know that there teams that will trade fourth eound picks for them, that is what they are worth. Mike Martz likes shorter speedy WRs in his previous offenses that have great hands. Darrel can’t work if we have any similer passing attack to Martz’s other offenses. His offense have WRs run 18-22 yard dig routes, Jackson can only catch balls that are 5-12 yards in. I remember his first drop when Alex Smith threw the perfect deep ball right in front of him in the endzone, he dove forward and tried to catch the ball with his body (which is his problem you supposed to cacth with hands, Hardy and Franklin cacth with their hands) and the ball went right through his arms, and he did it again in Seattle where he could have had a touchdown, but he dropped the ball, of course the ball was thrown poorly that time by torn shoulder Smith, but he still could of had it. Lelie can’t learn offenses and he is very stubborn, Jerry Sullivan didn’t like him, because he refused to focus on learning the routes, and he also has a catching problem. I rather have a deep threat that can catch the ball and run the right routes than a WR that is a deep threat that can’t run routes or cacth the damn ball and will always be on the bench. Also if we get rid of them we will get a lot of money for our cap room. Jackson is getting payed 4 million a year and lelie is gettin payed 3.5 a year! What a waste of money! We could pay Berrian or even Bryant less than that (not by much, or around the same for Berrian) and they would play a hell of a lot better than that.
Medford, realising Bryan Gilmoree? youree nutss and darrel jacksoon? Trent Dilfer can be our 3rd Qb but wat the hell where you thinkin? without them the offense would get worsee
One thing is true. our WR’s dropped too many balls. Gore did good well considering all the OL problems. We need recievers who can catch. I dont care about the YAC. How about catching a well perfectly pass instead off dropping it. As far as the offense line coach, I think they need to rotate some of our linemen to get the best possible pertection and run blocking. Now —- I know this may be a little tough to swallow but I think we should start Kwame and move staley to the left tackle. Remember, 2 years ago the O line did a good job which help us to get an almost 8-8 record including winning both games against seattle. If we had the same defense that year, the outcome could have been better. Staley, Faneca, Heitmann, Bass, Kwame… Who knows..
Natuzho i hope you are being sarcastic!
http://thefootballexpert.com/abromowitzmockdraft.html
Has our first three picks as
Early Doucet WR (James Hardy is available for us but we don’t take him)
Quentin Groves DE/ROLB
Ahtyba Rubin NT
Doucet & Groves - Awww…YEAH!!!!
I so do not want doucet. I think he is probably one of the most overrated players in this draft. He is not a #1 guy, at best he’s a #2 but more likely a slot reciever. And I’d rather pass on doucet if he is the only choice at WR. I’d rather go with dline or oline the doucet. Now I’m not a fan of groves in first and still think if he puts up a good combine he won’t be there for us in first but I could be wrong. If he was there in the 2nd he’d be a great pick though.
Rubin I do like in the 3rd or 4th though. He could be a solid NT prospect for us.
Oh an golden elbow. Kwame is going to be a free agent this year so unless we were to resign him which I really see no way that happens you can forget that idea.
Now I don’t know anything, but Soapoaga should be resigned as starting UT not NT, and Douglas at DE. M&M should match our recievers for their positions, not the Hill backing Battle shit. Speed and abilty does matter for QB consistincy, like Gilmore should be backing Lelie at the X. And Battle should be leading D jack at the Z… Clayton and Robinson should be the tail sweeps and the key returners on KR teams and Hicks should be gone.
I for all of everything good hope we don’t waste a pick on a WR early, With tackles like LT Baker, RT Williams and LT/RT Cherilus availible in the first round to us at 29th, NT Rubin the only zero gapper other than Ellis in the draft in the second, and Brennon in the fourth only if WR Avery or DT Dre’ Moore for back up UT is availible in the third. That is our draft.
The Chance of us getting Gross is unlikely but Faneca and Starks is a very good possibility just like we will have Briggs, and a D. Smith/Green/Haralson LB trade with Ciny for Chad Johnson would be an even trade, we are super fat at LB and Cincy is really in need so that type of trade could work. Slow and consistant works and that would be enough for a championship next season. And we would still sit about 20 under cap after the dust settles.
that would be a pimp lineup Gold.Berrian,Bryant,Hardy,and Franklin.(no Doucet)That would really help out Alex or Shaun big time.AAWWWWWWW YYEEEEAAAAAAHHHH!!!RUNNIN’ WITH THE DE………AWWWWWWW YEEAAAAHH!!!
has anyone noticed that KC has not yet tagged Jared Allen please god give us jared allen … i would rather have him then lance briggs
I would love to have Bryant, but I just don’t see us paying him AND Berrian. Believe it or not Bryant will want a pretty decent pay check……no, not as much Randy Moss, but a sizable pay check. I see Berrian coming to the niners. I HOPE (notice I used the word HOPE) that the niners are smart enough to get Hardy IF he is available. That would be a major upgrade in itself. But, c’mon guys, you know with Martz here they are going to get a Manningham or a Desean Jackson (6′0″ and fast are Martz’ cup of tea)….maybe even Doucet in the second round (a lot of mock draft have him falling into the second round.) Yeah, I know a lot of you don’t like the idea of getting a tackle with their first pick, but that is looking like where the most talented player will be available at. THE REASON THEY TAKE A TACKLE???? Mr. Glass…..Nolan doesn’t like him and he WILL start at right tackle THIS YEAR, but if they can get someone to replace him Nolan will cut him faster than you can blink next offseason because it will save more on the cap. I say keep him because the niners will have to pay him a good chunk of money either way and he HOPEFULLY isn’t soft enough to continue to sit games to that terrible hang nail. It sucks because we wouldn’t be adding a starter, but Nolan sounds content cleaning house a little. They WILL make a last minute play for Soap…..probably. Other than that he is sounding VERY content on letting some of these guys go that will make money. Douglas is old, Smiley will price himself out, and the rest don’t matter. Soap is the only one they would be stupid to let go. Baas I would rather start at right tackle anyway.
sorry, right guard.
Also, NinerFaithful, realize that if they were to get Allen he would take McDonald’s place because he isn’t bulky enough for strong side…..I would hope they would move McDonald over then.
Stacy Andrews just got tagged by the bungles….that means Justin Smith won’t be….he IS A STUD ON D LINE!!!!
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3251662
i love Ray Mcdonald he is fast of the snap he has alot of potential but we need someone to get the qb and i just think we need to target a great pass rusher … thanks for the insight RYan
No, I completely understand that…..we just need someone to step up on the strong side. If that is McDonald then so be it, but right now we KNOW that Justin Smith will hit the market….we’ll know by Friday if Jared Allen will be one as well. If we do then they would be fools not to go for one of these guys OVER BRIGGS. I like Briggs, but Nolan knows linebackers. We have VIRTUALLY NO pass rush. Since McNolan has said that they aren’t going to be as aggressive this offseason that makes me believe we are going to get one BIG player, a medium, and Soap…..hopefully. Also, they could be just blowing smoke to not suspect them. McCloughan is very aggressive this time of year. Let’s hope they get either Allen or Justin Smith….that would make more sense to me than Briggs. We could draft Crable or someone else in the second round and they WOULD START. I would NEVER complain if we got Briggs, but that money would be better spent on a pass rush. IF we get Soap then our NT and weak-side end situation is set. We need a strong side end to replace BY.
i agree with you think lance briggs is a good ball player but the money we could spend on the O and D line i just think we should focus on that it will be interesting to see what happens …..
any one excited about the combine i know i am
only 3 more days till the franchise tag shit deal is over, Jordan Gross has not been tagged … yet, but it is still possible they win’t tag him! The 3-4 defense needs one DE and two DTs pretty much. Ray McDonald or Melvin oliver could play UT, Ahtyba Rubin could play NT, and our DE could be either Jared Allen or Justin Smith, I say whoever is younger, I think Jared Allen is much better, and he also is only a 4 year veteran, he still has 10 years in him. Jordan Gross is a 5 year veteran, he has a good 8 to 9 years as well. Ray McDonald and Melvin Oliver are young, and of course Ahtyba Rubin or someone else from the draft would be a rookie NT, they would have their entire career ahead of them. We could have one of the younger and better d-lines.
Our pass rush could be upgraded with a draft pick of Quentin Groves, he would be our version of Demarcus Ware at ROLB, he would wreak havoc!
( I think Scott Mac is just trying to hide the fact that we will actually hit the free agency harder than expected…)
Free agency:
Bernard Berrian WR
Lance Briggs ILB*
Jared Allen DE
Jordan Gross RT
* We could use him, but we don’t NEED him at this point.
Getting 2 of those four FA would be a feat in itself, especially since I think Allen and Gross are going to be franchised. I just saw on ESPN or NFL network, one of the two, that Mushin Muhammad is going to be released. He is a tall possesion reciever and has great hands, plus he run blocks.
Muhammad has STAY THE HELL AWAY written all over him. We need to get younger at that particular position. Berrian would be great because IF we draft Hardy, Manningham, or Desean Jackson they wouldn’t feel as much pressure because the niners would most likely make him the #3 behind DJAX. Unless we get a SOMEBODY it will be Berrian and DJAX because they aren’ super tall (especially DJAX) and they are really shifty. Jared Allen OR Justin Smith work for me. We just need to do what was done last year. Get them to niners headquarters and don’t let them leave without a contract. I hope they are smart enough to do that. With all of these names floating around in free agency (trust me there is A LOT MORE THAN LAST YEAR) we should make our moves and then bow out. I realize that a Briggs, Faneca, or Gross would probably take more time, but we should really make the moves and get the people here in the first three days of free agency. IF they walk away then they won’t stay.
ALLEN GOT TAGGED, DAMN IT!!! Check http://www.profootballtalk.com they are saying the Chiefs tagged him.
Yeah Allen has been tagged, it was on other sites too, damn it, he actually has the size to play DE in the 3-4 too, well we will see if they can keep him after next year, Briggs and Samuel were both franchised and now theyare leaving the very next year, hopefully that will happen, Allen is young enough, Smith is older, and he is 6′4″, instead of 6′6″ Allen, I think we can wait though, McDonald could play RE/UT and Melvin oliver could play LE.
Justin Smith is a 4-3 defender. Same goes for Trevor Laws, he is a 4-3 DT why does Matthew Barrows think he is so great for us? He thinks we should get Carl Nicks with our 1st and Laws in the second, I can understand Nicks, but there are also more OTs that are better than Nicks as well, and Laws doesn’t fit us.
Jordan Gross has 3 days until he could survive, but the Allen one just was low blow to take, has anyone heard news on Asomugha? Or even Randy Moss and Asante Samuel, are the Pats going to be able to keep them? I guess not, the only way the Pats could keep Moss is if he was tagged or he decided he could live with only 1 mil a season, being payed like a decent backup.
Sean Locklear and Gross are the only two OTs that are young and good, Gross is great, Locklear is good. They are both RTs, Locklear is 6′4″ 308 pounds , and Gross is 6′5″ 300 pounds. Locklear won’t be getting franchised for sure, but Gross has a good chance of being franchised, even though the GM is still thinking about it. We have a ton of cap room! We have anywhere from as low as 26 million- 32 million, McNolan knows how to control the cap! We won’t have to worry baout cap hell with them. I have heard from one site we have 29 and another one which this guy has everything calculated and he adds up to 32 million, so I think we are on the hire end of the the cap are around 30 mil.
Free Agency
Bernard Berrian WR
Jordan Gross RT
Lance Briggs ILB (I’m still iffy on him, i think we could wait till next years draft and find an ILB next to Willis there.)
*higher end of the 26-32 million
we are on the higher end….which is why we should at least get TWO QUALITY players. Justin Smith is a little older, but Nolan and McCloughan were showing major interest in him last offseason…..who knows though? I think Berrian is coming to town. He is a Martz type of receiver and then we should go after one more because there is a major dropoff after Berrian (should we get him) and DJAX. Jason Hill is STILL UNPROVEN and Battle HAS PROVEN to be EXTREMELY INCONSISTENT. Time to sure up the offense. Gross I agree would be exactly what we need…..but right now he is on my too good to be true list. I think the Panthers will play tag with him……they still have 72 hours (plenty of time). However, if the niners do wise up and get him I would be stoked. Your free agent list is realistic, but not Nolan realistic. I don’t think we will get three….I think we will get two. As for Carl Nicks, they are going on who is going to be available. I would LOVE to have him, but I would rather have Hardy. The only thing is that Hardy isn’t going to be available……plus you can tell from the last couple of years that Nolan WILL spend money on a quality lineman, but as for receiver…..not so much. I can’t say I agree with not acquiring a playmaker, but this is the year I think he finally does it.
Hardy will have to run a 4.4 40 if he is going to rocket up the draft boards, there are are agod 7 to 9 WRs that are ranked better than him, also Hardy has a off the field issue he needs to clean up at the combine and proven that he has changed (I have a 99% feeling he has changed) and his stock might rise a little, right now he is a second round pick to other teams. After the combine he will be a late first early second. Limas Sweed supposedly could impress witha surpising 40 time in the 4.4s, Hardy runs a 4.5 simple as that, he also has game speed, which is why I think he could be good for us, others will be looking at guys like these…
WR 1 Malcolm Kelly JR 6-4/215/4.50
WR 2 Devin Thomas JR 6-2/215/4.50
WR 3 Donnie Avery SR 5-10/184/4.33
WR 4 Mario Manningham JR 6-0/187/–
WR 5 Earl Bennett JR 6-1/202/ –
WR 6 Andre Caldwell SR 6-0/203/4.55
WR 7 Harry Douglas SR 5-11/173/4.37
WR 8 Early Doucet SR 6-0/213/4.53
WR 9 Limas Sweed SR 6-5/220/4.50
and here is Hardy…
WR 10 James Hardy JR 6′6.5″220/4.50
Good chance we can get him. Nolan’s ass is on the line, I think he will do anything to make this team have a winning record.
Barrows thinks Trevor Laws is a great fit for us because a) hes alot like Kelly Gregg from BAL B)we could prolly put him at RE to fill in for Douglas C) we need to keep blockers off of Willis…
NFL.com has been reporting for a few days now that if Gross doesn’t get a long term deal worked out they WILL tag him, not that they might. So remove him from your list.
Darwin Walker got released today too, I don’t think has the size to play NT, but maybe an end candidate, if he wants to take a pay cut, which I think he will have to do regardless of the team he goes to.
Sorry to triple post but I just read this article on Red Bryant from Texas A&M, and I say we go with him for our NT. I personally haven’t heard much about him other than see his name in a few mocks, usually going to us in the third/fourth, but after reading his abilities, I am a fan.
http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/red-bryant?id=200
We should be talking free agency the draft is to far away.
i am down lets talk free agency any word on any tagging this morning
i awnserd my own question http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d806be830&template=with-video&confirm=true take jared off the list
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