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		<title>By: Mas (Real one)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mas (Real one)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 08:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s up Devani.  

There is a stark difference between the two and looking at production vs conference can be a bit misleading.  

The idea that McCoy is more of your prototype QB isn&#039;t entirely true.  Great, great character guy but again, he comes from a spread offense and plays against some of the most statistically weak secondaries in the entire BCS.  He&#039;s won a lot of games and has been (almost) a 4 year starter for the Longhorns since 2006.  He&#039;s a mobile guy, has good feet and for the most part, doesn&#039;t turn the ball over a whole lot.  A lot of experts hate on his ability to stretch the field but I really don&#039;t see how that&#039;s of any real importance considering who we&#039;ve seen with a canon as opposed to a rifle.  Overall, Colt gets the ball where it needs to be and shows a lot of intangibles under high pressure situations.  The only problem is, he&#039;d take 2-3 years to develop into the QB we need him to be.  (Character guy: A friend of mine was his room-mate at Texas his Frosh/Soph yr and has had nothing but great things to say about him.. And Jordan Shipley).

Jimmy Clausen is a competitor.  He&#039;s guaranteed championships for the University of Notre Dame but has obviously fallen short.  The thing I like about Clausen over any of the other QB&#039;s is that he not only has had &quot;The Big Games&quot; but he&#039;s also shown a tremendous amount of progression over the past 3 years.  He&#039;s done it with a horrific offensive line, IN A Pro Style Offense, almost has that cannon arm but again, does not turn the ball over.  He&#039;s lost a lot of close games and from my impression, is a douchebag, but he&#039;d be our best bet.  

Chances are we won&#039;t draft either of these guys but chances are, McCoy will slip to either the late 1st rd or early 2nd round.  Experts have projected him as a 4-5 rd pick but I just can&#039;t see that.  The guy is at the center of the Heisman talk this year and if he keeps on winning, I doubt he&#039;ll fall short of it.  I&#039;d like Clausen to slip but that&#039;s not going to happen... He&#039;s looking out for #1 and that&#039;s Jimmy baby!  ..LoL.  Being a Cali guy, he&#039;d be a great fit and live it up in the bay area but with too many teams that suck (CLE, STL, WSH, SEA) and need a QB this year, we&#039;ll be lucky if he&#039;s this year&#039;s Crabtree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s up Devani.  </p>
<p>There is a stark difference between the two and looking at production vs conference can be a bit misleading.  </p>
<p>The idea that McCoy is more of your prototype QB isn&#8217;t entirely true.  Great, great character guy but again, he comes from a spread offense and plays against some of the most statistically weak secondaries in the entire BCS.  He&#8217;s won a lot of games and has been (almost) a 4 year starter for the Longhorns since 2006.  He&#8217;s a mobile guy, has good feet and for the most part, doesn&#8217;t turn the ball over a whole lot.  A lot of experts hate on his ability to stretch the field but I really don&#8217;t see how that&#8217;s of any real importance considering who we&#8217;ve seen with a canon as opposed to a rifle.  Overall, Colt gets the ball where it needs to be and shows a lot of intangibles under high pressure situations.  The only problem is, he&#8217;d take 2-3 years to develop into the QB we need him to be.  (Character guy: A friend of mine was his room-mate at Texas his Frosh/Soph yr and has had nothing but great things to say about him.. And Jordan Shipley).</p>
<p>Jimmy Clausen is a competitor.  He&#8217;s guaranteed championships for the University of Notre Dame but has obviously fallen short.  The thing I like about Clausen over any of the other QB&#8217;s is that he not only has had &#8220;The Big Games&#8221; but he&#8217;s also shown a tremendous amount of progression over the past 3 years.  He&#8217;s done it with a horrific offensive line, IN A Pro Style Offense, almost has that cannon arm but again, does not turn the ball over.  He&#8217;s lost a lot of close games and from my impression, is a douchebag, but he&#8217;d be our best bet.  </p>
<p>Chances are we won&#8217;t draft either of these guys but chances are, McCoy will slip to either the late 1st rd or early 2nd round.  Experts have projected him as a 4-5 rd pick but I just can&#8217;t see that.  The guy is at the center of the Heisman talk this year and if he keeps on winning, I doubt he&#8217;ll fall short of it.  I&#8217;d like Clausen to slip but that&#8217;s not going to happen&#8230; He&#8217;s looking out for #1 and that&#8217;s Jimmy baby!  ..LoL.  Being a Cali guy, he&#8217;d be a great fit and live it up in the bay area but with too many teams that suck (CLE, STL, WSH, SEA) and need a QB this year, we&#8217;ll be lucky if he&#8217;s this year&#8217;s Crabtree.</p>
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		<title>By: Mas (Real one)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mas (Real one)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 07:35:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And again, this talk of McCoy is nice but he&#039;s going to take years when people want production now.  I don&#039;t believe in investing one of our two first round picks in him.  If he falls to the second round, yes, trade up and swoop.  

Our immediate area of need is RT and DB.  Our safeties our soft and our corners are either made of glass or not able too long in the tooth (old).

With all the talent at the Tackle, Safety, Corner and even OLB (pass rush) positions, it&#039;s hard to believe that a defensive minded coach won&#039;t put his foot down and stomp out any Scott McCloughen idea&#039;s.  This guy needs to go chew on rocks because he is NOT a General Manager of a major sports franchise.  Major fast-food franchise.. maybe but in all honesty, when can we start talking about getting this guy a suitcase, some Mydol and plane ticket out?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And again, this talk of McCoy is nice but he&#8217;s going to take years when people want production now.  I don&#8217;t believe in investing one of our two first round picks in him.  If he falls to the second round, yes, trade up and swoop.  </p>
<p>Our immediate area of need is RT and DB.  Our safeties our soft and our corners are either made of glass or not able too long in the tooth (old).</p>
<p>With all the talent at the Tackle, Safety, Corner and even OLB (pass rush) positions, it&#8217;s hard to believe that a defensive minded coach won&#8217;t put his foot down and stomp out any Scott McCloughen idea&#8217;s.  This guy needs to go chew on rocks because he is NOT a General Manager of a major sports franchise.  Major fast-food franchise.. maybe but in all honesty, when can we start talking about getting this guy a suitcase, some Mydol and plane ticket out?</p>
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		<title>By: Mas (Real one)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mas (Real one)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 07:24:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ramaros.  Good break down.  

Redandgold.  True talk.

Dosia510.  I see where you&#039;re going but I can&#039;t say I&#039;m completely with you on this one.  Given &quot;the break down&quot; and considering the fact that Smith has signed on for another 3 years (this year included) there&#039;s little to no chance that Smith will be gone after this season.

I agree.  Jimmy Raye&#039;s style of offense is painfully predictable and I honestly would pay to see his face after half time of this past game against Green Bay.  Yes, Smith had 5 (fucking) yards passing with an overall team of -7 yds at the half (sacks).  But the fact of the matter is Alex Smith has been a lot more exciting to watch when put in the spread than Hill or even a (future) 1st or 2nd round pick is or could be.  

Both Vernon Davis and Crabs said it.  When they&#039;re running the spread, more guys have an opportunity to get the ball and make plays.  We may be a west-coast, run first type of offense but when you have the depth at WR/TE/RB, why would you make your team one dimensional?  Teams know what to expect when they face us week in and week out.  Our offensive production over the first half of every game since Houston has been lackluster to say the least.  We only go to the spread when we&#039;re 21 pts down and praying for a miracle.  

Again, I&#039;m not saying Alex Smith is our QB of the future.  BUT.  If we are able to surround him with enough talent (OT), he CAN be productive.  Yes he&#039;s made quite a few mistakes and YES it friggin&#039; drives me nuts to see him roll out and get sacked when he obviously should know to throw it away. 

Jimmy Raye needs to swallow his pride and adapt to his personnel or get the fuck out because he&#039;s driving me insane.  His idea that establishing the run will help get our passing game going may work for a lot of other teams out there but when our passing game is going, Frank gets going.  I know he had that 42 yd run in the beginning of the game but after that we went right back to a 2 TE set and a standard I-Form, 2 wide set with Alex running play action which he CLEARLY has issues with.   

I hate to see another offensive coordinator gone but this guy needs to start packing or go with what works.  Like these guys have been saying, when Hill was our QB, our defense was ALL-PRO.  Now that teams have been able to game-plan to our weaknesses and have successfully exploited these weaknesses, we need to focus on putting points up on the board.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ramaros.  Good break down.  </p>
<p>Redandgold.  True talk.</p>
<p>Dosia510.  I see where you&#8217;re going but I can&#8217;t say I&#8217;m completely with you on this one.  Given &#8220;the break down&#8221; and considering the fact that Smith has signed on for another 3 years (this year included) there&#8217;s little to no chance that Smith will be gone after this season.</p>
<p>I agree.  Jimmy Raye&#8217;s style of offense is painfully predictable and I honestly would pay to see his face after half time of this past game against Green Bay.  Yes, Smith had 5 (fucking) yards passing with an overall team of -7 yds at the half (sacks).  But the fact of the matter is Alex Smith has been a lot more exciting to watch when put in the spread than Hill or even a (future) 1st or 2nd round pick is or could be.  </p>
<p>Both Vernon Davis and Crabs said it.  When they&#8217;re running the spread, more guys have an opportunity to get the ball and make plays.  We may be a west-coast, run first type of offense but when you have the depth at WR/TE/RB, why would you make your team one dimensional?  Teams know what to expect when they face us week in and week out.  Our offensive production over the first half of every game since Houston has been lackluster to say the least.  We only go to the spread when we&#8217;re 21 pts down and praying for a miracle.  </p>
<p>Again, I&#8217;m not saying Alex Smith is our QB of the future.  BUT.  If we are able to surround him with enough talent (OT), he CAN be productive.  Yes he&#8217;s made quite a few mistakes and YES it friggin&#8217; drives me nuts to see him roll out and get sacked when he obviously should know to throw it away. </p>
<p>Jimmy Raye needs to swallow his pride and adapt to his personnel or get the fuck out because he&#8217;s driving me insane.  His idea that establishing the run will help get our passing game going may work for a lot of other teams out there but when our passing game is going, Frank gets going.  I know he had that 42 yd run in the beginning of the game but after that we went right back to a 2 TE set and a standard I-Form, 2 wide set with Alex running play action which he CLEARLY has issues with.   </p>
<p>I hate to see another offensive coordinator gone but this guy needs to start packing or go with what works.  Like these guys have been saying, when Hill was our QB, our defense was ALL-PRO.  Now that teams have been able to game-plan to our weaknesses and have successfully exploited these weaknesses, we need to focus on putting points up on the board.</p>
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		<title>By: dosia510</title>
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		<dc:creator>dosia510</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 04:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>of course there are problems all over, anyone who folloes the niners can see that. what i think is, on the offensive side, smith is to blame, as is the shit o-line we have and jimmy raye. mainly, i do believe that jimmy raye is a fuckin retard and he more than likely will get fired after this season. how to go about fixing these things is up to the 49ers staff. but as a fan, i would like to see smith gone. raye gone. few new o-line faces and WISELY used draft picks to boost our offense. i personally like mccoy for one pick and an o-lineman with the other. what do u think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>of course there are problems all over, anyone who folloes the niners can see that. what i think is, on the offensive side, smith is to blame, as is the shit o-line we have and jimmy raye. mainly, i do believe that jimmy raye is a fuckin retard and he more than likely will get fired after this season. how to go about fixing these things is up to the 49ers staff. but as a fan, i would like to see smith gone. raye gone. few new o-line faces and WISELY used draft picks to boost our offense. i personally like mccoy for one pick and an o-lineman with the other. what do u think?</p>
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		<title>By: redandgold</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 23:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>its all good Ramaros i hear you man, but just dont waste ur time trying to talk some football with these ppl, because no matter how good smith does these pointless fans will always hate him, so let go man, you and many others that know football know that this is a team sport, not a one man team. And if they think hill is better they are lying to themselfs because all u have to do is look at the numbers... when hill was QB, the D was playing a lot better, but now they are playing like shit, so you know who gets the blame? smith.. Look man this is really pointless to try and talk some football with these fucks, if you ask me, just let them think whatever they want it dont matter anyways, all they do is find a way to bitch about the 9ers losing ,but its the niners losing not smith, so let them say all that shit, it dont mean shit. hahahaha this dude nenerPaul said to put Hill or nate with the spread offense ahahaha.. I hate to talk shit but you ppl just run ur gums dont watch shit.. let as you this, do u believe that smith is better than cutler? because if you look at numbers the guy has more int&#039;s than anyone else... Look, T.O. said they just love to hate him and thats it. But I HOPE smith does find another team just to show you cool guys that the team is the problem, not QB. AND why do you think Hill is not playing anyways? is it cause niners like to lose??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>its all good Ramaros i hear you man, but just dont waste ur time trying to talk some football with these ppl, because no matter how good smith does these pointless fans will always hate him, so let go man, you and many others that know football know that this is a team sport, not a one man team. And if they think hill is better they are lying to themselfs because all u have to do is look at the numbers&#8230; when hill was QB, the D was playing a lot better, but now they are playing like shit, so you know who gets the blame? smith.. Look man this is really pointless to try and talk some football with these fucks, if you ask me, just let them think whatever they want it dont matter anyways, all they do is find a way to bitch about the 9ers losing ,but its the niners losing not smith, so let them say all that shit, it dont mean shit. hahahaha this dude nenerPaul said to put Hill or nate with the spread offense ahahaha.. I hate to talk shit but you ppl just run ur gums dont watch shit.. let as you this, do u believe that smith is better than cutler? because if you look at numbers the guy has more int&#8217;s than anyone else&#8230; Look, T.O. said they just love to hate him and thats it. But I HOPE smith does find another team just to show you cool guys that the team is the problem, not QB. AND why do you think Hill is not playing anyways? is it cause niners like to lose??</p>
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		<title>By: Mas (Real one)</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 23:36:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.  No.  I like the fact that he&#039;s a proven winner but that doesn&#039;t necessarily mean he&#039;s going to be as effective in the pro&#039;s as he has been in division one ball.

Aside from that he&#039;s not going to last long with his style - and again, do you really want another product of Urban Meyer?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  No.  I like the fact that he&#8217;s a proven winner but that doesn&#8217;t necessarily mean he&#8217;s going to be as effective in the pro&#8217;s as he has been in division one ball.</p>
<p>Aside from that he&#8217;s not going to last long with his style &#8211; and again, do you really want another product of Urban Meyer?</p>
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		<title>By: dosia510</title>
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		<dc:creator>dosia510</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 23:02:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>haha thas funny! lol</description>
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		<title>By: Ramaros</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ramaros</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shaun Hill: 5TDs 2 INTs With 943 yards, 56.1% completion rate and a QB rating of 79.6

Alex Smith: 9TDs 7 INTs With 1,035 Yards, 61.3% Completion rate and a QB Rating of 81.5

Shaun his has thrown three more TDs than INTs but Smith has thrown 4 more TDs than Hill. They BOTH attempted exactly 155 passes, Smith is the more accurate QB. and if you really are comparing the two QBs then Smith is BETTER!

Not to mention atleast 3 of his 7 INTs were on the receivers end..including the INT against the Texans.

Mind you Hill has started 6(Including Texans game) games, Smith(Not including texans game) 4.

So to recap here With 2 more games than smith starting, he&#039;s thrown for less yards, he&#039;s completed less passes, and has less TDs than Smith(Smith does have more INTs but also passes more(4 games with same attempts) and also produces more).

Sorry I just dont see your logic as to how this is all Smiths fault here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shaun Hill: 5TDs 2 INTs With 943 yards, 56.1% completion rate and a QB rating of 79.6</p>
<p>Alex Smith: 9TDs 7 INTs With 1,035 Yards, 61.3% Completion rate and a QB Rating of 81.5</p>
<p>Shaun his has thrown three more TDs than INTs but Smith has thrown 4 more TDs than Hill. They BOTH attempted exactly 155 passes, Smith is the more accurate QB. and if you really are comparing the two QBs then Smith is BETTER!</p>
<p>Not to mention atleast 3 of his 7 INTs were on the receivers end..including the INT against the Texans.</p>
<p>Mind you Hill has started 6(Including Texans game) games, Smith(Not including texans game) 4.</p>
<p>So to recap here With 2 more games than smith starting, he&#8217;s thrown for less yards, he&#8217;s completed less passes, and has less TDs than Smith(Smith does have more INTs but also passes more(4 games with same attempts) and also produces more).</p>
<p>Sorry I just dont see your logic as to how this is all Smiths fault here.</p>
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		<title>By: Devani</title>
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		<dc:creator>Devani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:28:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Yes, good point Dosia # 5!  I think Tebow may be a little qustionable, I have been watching Tebows game film and he shows reluctance on the field sometimes.  Oh Mas, what do you think of the play of Clauson over Mccoy, I think Mccoy is more of your prototype QB, and he comes from a superb conference.  I feel like Mccoy will bring it on sundays, and plus he just a stud QB who can read coverages substantially.  What is your take Mas my friend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Yes, good point Dosia # 5!  I think Tebow may be a little qustionable, I have been watching Tebows game film and he shows reluctance on the field sometimes.  Oh Mas, what do you think of the play of Clauson over Mccoy, I think Mccoy is more of your prototype QB, and he comes from a superb conference.  I feel like Mccoy will bring it on sundays, and plus he just a stud QB who can read coverages substantially.  What is your take Mas my friend.</p>
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		<title>By: NinerPaul</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:50:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Talk about folds &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; So what Smith came back in the Texans game only to what &gt;&gt;&gt; FOLD a pick to end the game..... Alex has 7 int&#039;s &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Shaun Hill 2  mabey thats why he has more wins ..... The numbers don&#039;t lie.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talk about folds &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; So what Smith came back in the Texans game only to what &gt;&gt;&gt; FOLD a pick to end the game&#8230;.. Alex has 7 int&#8217;s &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Shaun Hill 2  mabey thats why he has more wins &#8230;.. The numbers don&#8217;t lie&#8230;..</p>
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