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According to Adam Schefter: after weeks of looking, the San Francisco 49ers finally found their man. They hired Jimmy Raye as their offensive coordinator, league sources said Wednesday night.

Yipee! Hoo-ray! Unf’inbelievable. This is the best they can do. Jimmy F’in Raye. You got to be shitting me. At this point not only does the Martz firing look horrible, but the hiring of Singletary looks like it might have been the wrong move. I sit here and think if they would have not hired Mike so quick, they could have had a shot at Gruden or Shanahan. But hey at least we got Jimmy Raye, who by the way as OC has a 12 season average of 6 wins 10 losses at 18.7 points a game.

Also for anyone reading this, save the let’s give Mike and Jimmy a chance. This is a horrible hire.

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  • Rob

    You know, one thing I have to say about this is that Singletary is certainly doing things his own way. Conventional wisdom would have said he either kept Martz and not rock the boat or go with someone like Linehan (which, admittedly, he tried to do). Instead, he pulls this old guy out of nowhere. He is certainly doing this job on his own terms. I am anxious to see the explanation for this hire.

    That said, that just means we better hope he is right about what he is trying to do. Because if he is wrong, he will go down in flames, a la Mike Nolan…

  • Glass half-full

    Yes, Rochester is correct… On the surface this looks to be a horrible hire, and is ultimately disappointing. I know everyone is crying foul and think our beloved Niners will suck from now into the foreseeable future, and who really knows, that could very well be the case, but a few points people seem to be over looking are:

    1. Coached under and learned the system used by Ernie Zampesse.

    2. A favorite of Norv Turner. Was his OC in Washington and Oakland.

    3. And I know this last one is not comforting in the least, but will be here for a while, and probably to groom his replacement… Can you say Rathman or the newly hired Johnson.

    The first two are proponents of the Coryell system that everyone wanted other than the WCO.

    All I'm saying is try to see the small… very small, silver lining and come to terms that this our new OC, like it or love it.

  • West

    Has anyone looked at the Roasters Raye worked with? Doesnt seem like he has had much to work with… Shit some how he got L. Jordan to rush for a 1000….. Elvis Grbac did well…. From the looks K.C had the best roaster…. We need to keep building up our Offense an Defense to get anywhere

    The teams he had, Offense sucked an Defense

  • joe gomez

    This guys offenses have mostly SUCKED big time. He wont be an improvement over Martz. Shit he might not be an improvement over Hostler. Hahaha.. this is a fucking joke. We waited that long for Jimmy WHO? Well I hope all the Martz haters are happy because we just signed a mediocre nobody to replace him.

  • joe gomez

    Cory.. yea he saw "something" in his eyes so Sing hired him right? Fuck the twinkle in the eye shit, this mans resume SUCKS!!!!!

  • Rob

    Gomez, as much as I agree that this guy is not a step in the right direction, I'm not convinced that keeping Martz would have been that great. You've been doing nothing on here but saying what a mistake it was to get rid of Martz. And, while I can't say that is flat out wrong, I can make arguments that firing him wasn't wrong, either.

    1. His preferred style of offense didn't match our personnel. Gore didn't have the great season that Martz supporters said he would. And, we just don't have the QB or receivers needed for his system. He thought bringing in Bruce and JTO would help. Bruce was a decent addition, but JTO was a bust. So, a year later and we still aren't much closer to having the personnel needed for his system.

    2. Martz's system isn't as effective as it used to be. Martz is famous because of his "Greatest Show on Turf" days, right? Well, Kurt Warner said that defenses were catching on to his offense, and that it became less & less effective over time. Add to that that Martz hasn't been able to find the precise personnel needed to run his offense since he left St. Louis, and his system hasn't been nearly as effective in recent years.

    3. Martz was difficult to get along with. Some people may say "Who cares?", but I say this one is a biggie. The teams that go to the Superbowl are the teams that have good chemistry and where everyone is on the same page. Martz has become too much of a maverick to contribute in that regard.

    4. Martz was a potential flight risk. Not as big of a reason, but he did have some success as a head coach. So, you better believe that if he had any success in San Fran, he would be on the first possible flight out of here.

    The bottom line is, last year there were some good OCs available. Nolan picked the wrong one. Period. And, that is why he is now in Denver in a demoted position. Unfortunately, there aren't as many good OC candidates this year. So, Singletary had a tough time finding one. I am willing to give Raye a chance. But, this just feels like a road we've been down a few times in recent years. And, this road has never ended well. So, I'm not terribly optimistic. But, you never know.

  • Lowrance

    Running back coach for the Jets?

    Never heard of him…. Hope our defense plays well…..

    Time to pray….

  • RedandGold

    all you guys know how to do is bitch!!!.. You guys bitched when sing first steped in, then you loved him…. just bitch bitch bitch….

    Red and Gold till the day i go!!! not like you bitchs! just go to another team please, and watch us get our 6th, maybe even the first to 6 bitchs!!!!!!!!!!

  • West

    9ers defense was respectable last season, ranking 13th in the NFL in yards allowed per game (326.0). Offense mild success, finishing 23rd in the league after compiling just 311 yards per contest. Looking at it in that light its not like Martz had us in the top 10 either…..We did better under Martz "yes" but he wasnt actually following much……..Not saying Raye is our hero but for once our Offense can stay in 1 system……As long as we bring in some help in FA an Draft I dont c our Offense doing much worse than last year…. Really our best player Gore struggled to reached 1000 yards…. We can just hope Gore an V.D are used right this time!…..

  • joe gomez

    RedandGold.. yea motherfucker were bitchin.. what are you gonna cheer after we signed a mediocre ex-running backs coach names Jimmy Gay? Fucking idiot, we just want the best for our team, we dont want sorry ass bitches like you! So if you cant handle the comments little faggot, then dont read it!

  • Clausen2Tate

    This hire isn't outstanding by anymeans but if you actually think about it's really not that bad.People are missing the point that this team is not focused on Offense it's on DEFENSE.Under Sing we are going to rely on our defense to not only win games but to win the devision.Look at the Dolphins this year not an outstanding offense(even though wildcat was effective)but it did just enough to win.

  • ninerfaithful

    so niner fans we have a new OC nothing new to us since at this time every year we always have this discussion can we get some of raye background info anyone?

  • Rob

    Like I’ve said in other posts, I’m disappointed by this move. This guy just has mediocre written all over him. Considering all the people we could have had, this is just second rate. Honestly, I think I would have rather kept Martz than have this guy.

    Well, at least this fiasco is over. I hope I am proven wrong about Raye. But, I’m not optimistic.

    Unfortunately, Singletary’s handling of this situation and his final choice has made his credibility drop in my eyes. But, again, I really hope I’m proven wrong.

  • Rob

    ninerfaithful, here is part of an article from the San Fransisco Chronicle about Raye:

    “Ravens quarterbacks coach Hue Jackson was the presumed front-runner for the job after he came in for a second interview with Singletary on Tuesday, after an initial visit on Friday.

    Raye, however, convinced Singletary he was the man for the job in an interview on Wednesday morning in Santa Clara. He is a proponent of a pro-style offense that strives for balance between the run and the pass.

    Raye was an assistant coach with the Los Angeles Rams in 1984 when the team finished second in the league in rushing as Eric Dickerson ran for an NFL record 2,105 yards. With Kansas City in 2000, the Chiefs had the league’s fifth-best passing offense.

    Singletary took a full month to decide on a coordinator after firing Mike Martz on Dec. 30 after a 2008 season in which the interim head coach and the offensive coordinator clashed several times on style and approach.

    Though the search seemed to drag on, Raye arrives in plenty of time to join the 49ers’ coaching staff as it prepares for the NFL combine, free agency, the draft and spring minicamps.

    Former NFL executive Michael Lombardi, writing for the National Football Post.com, said before Raye’s hire that the 49ers made a mistake in firing Martz.

    “Everyone I talked to here in Tampa on Monday (at the Super Bowl) agree that the 49ers will not recover from their decision to fire Mike Martz, and whomever they hire will not be as good or as effective,” Lombardi said. “Martz may take a lot of hits in the media, but he’s an outstanding offensive coach.”

    Martz has not found another job since being fired by the 49ers.

    In his long NFL career, Raye served as offensive coordinator at Tampa Bay, New England, Kansas City, Washington, Oakland and with the Rams on two occasions.”

  • 9nerfan

    i really really hope our defense can carry us. i hope this guy can prove us all wrong and does a good job. i really hope so. im lost for words. i dont know what to think at this point. cant wait for free agency and the draft now. but dont get me wrong, ima support sf49ers till the day i die.

  • wickerman

    VERY bad move. This guy has no proven track record. To say your team ran well with Dickerson and Holmes/Johnson is like saying having Montana and Rice on your team made you a passing genius. Hall of Fame level play will make any coach look like a hero. Show me how this guy DEVELOPED a great offense and I’ll believe.

    Being in the right place at the right time does not make it your doing.

  • http://www.rubsytravel.com r1chsy

    I do too hope he proves us wrong. I believe he'll work hard but is he gonna be close to what Martz or Norv ever did? I can't expect much.

  • newmexicolobo

    ALL I GOT TO SAY SING WHY IN THE HE– DID YOU PICK THIS GUY. I JUST PREY YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING AND JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE TIRED OF LOOKING. GO 49ERS

  • Rochester

    On the surface, this looks like a terrible move…has Raye had any notable success anywhere? Just watch, everybody will be calling for his head half way through next season.

    On the bright side, you can’t say he’s inexperienced and I doubt if he’s going to be hired away by anybody else in the future.

    This hire is really disappointing.. seems to me, Jackson would have been preferable or we should have just kept Martz.

  • Lowrance

    I remember Shanahan, Morningweg, and Homgren

  • FunkyFrank

    I totally agree with Rochester. On the bright side… we probably don’t have to worry about this guy leaving after a year due to his great success… firing maybe… but not likely as a head coaching candidate for another team. Looks like we might begin to have some consistency at the position given he does a decent job. At least he has more experience than Hostler. Like all the others, I’m not terribly optimistic. The only hope we have is that we take control of the turnover ratio this year. Can’t wait for the draft now.

  • ninerfaithful

    Rob thanks for the information

  • R,Craig33

    Hey guys I’m not to crazy about this myself and it’s not a sexy pick but on the other hand I’m thinking maybe it’s not about it being a sexy pick I’m tired of our niners losing and not having any winning seasons.

    On the other hand it’s not just about the coaching staff that have to win the games for us it’s the players that they pick to be on the team and them producing, just like martz he picked up JT and we’ve seen good things from him but we definatly seen bad so the end result to that was him getting yanked from the starting spot and then hill comes in and start wining games along with nolan getting fired and singletary replacing him.

    What I’m trying to say is we wanted singletary to get the job and he got it, some of us called for martz firing and we got it so maybe we need to have some faith in this decision and see if they produce the right product and pick and put the right players in place to win football games, go to the playoffs and got to the superbowl and be the first to win six superbowls as well as us being the first to win five.

  • Eli

    Umm.. the 49ers were the first to win 5…

  • MSouza

    I was a fan of the possibility of a Hue Jackson hiring, but I wasn’t sitting in the interviews and if Sing says Raye is the guy, then maybe he is right. Nobody wants to see another Hostler, but with the massive list of candidates already interviewed, maybe this guy is the right man for the job. One thing is for sure, everybody can stop complaining that we don’t have an OC.

  • Cory

    i agree with Msouza…..we werent in the interview and maybe Singletary sees something in him….everyone who is saying hiring Singletary was a mistake now need to chill….its wasnt a mistake….

  • R,Craig33

    If you look again I said first to win six superbowls as well as us being the first to win five.

  • R,Craig33

    Good info West and that’s the point I was trying to make by saying make a good product and bringing in players that will make that product a good one.

  • AXEGRINDER

    No one should believe anything the press says about Jimmy Raye being hired as OC. According to the so-called experts in the press, the Cowboys were the best team in football. PFFFFFFFF!!!!! Most everyone in the press don't know shit. The press can eat a fucking dick as far as I'm concerned.

    Miscus555 said it perfectly. Singletary's "vision" emphasizes execution and ball control on offense. It really doesn't matter what type of offense you run, if you execute it perfectly, don't cough the ball up, and play solid defense, you will win.

    The simplest offense can be successful with proper execution. I don't think we'll lite the world up, but with good execution, we'll control the game. I think we could definately have done better than Raye for an OC, I'm just trying to find a silver lining, and that silver lining is execution, execution, and more execution. I think that's where Singletary is going with this.

  • joe gomez

    Rob, I understand all that but who would you rather have Martz or this fucking bum Jimmy Gay?

  • 49er4life

    It was Martz’s decision to start JTO over Hill. It was Martz who rode JTO’s jock steadily for 8 weeks. It was Martz who said JTO was the best QB he’d every coached. We simply cannot afford to have such a poor evaluater of talent on our coaching staff. That being said, I do not think that the hiring of Bubba Raye, or whatever the fuck his name is, is a step in the right direction. The guy, after all, was a fucking running backs coach last year. However, we must consider the type of offense Singetary wants to implement. Sing has said over and over that he wants a smash mouth, run-at-will type offense. If that is the case, there is really not that much room for error as an o-coordinator. How hard is it to call running play after running play? I do it everyday on Madden. Which is why we need to either draft, or sign a free agent running back. A big back that can complement Gore’s style. A Johnathan Stewart type back.

  • RedandGold

    hahahaha.. look i am not the type to be behind a computer to talk shit, cause im not a bitch, i got balls, but anyways all im saying is even if we got the best OC in the nfl, you still would bitch. With that said, you dont know if this guy maybe able to do something good or bad and i dont know that either, but just have something to bitch about before you cry. When we do win 10 games, you can suck my big black balls!!!

  • http://www.rubsytravel.com r1chsy

    He will be better than Jeff Hostler. With that said, GOD help us!!!

  • joes pink pussy

    Redandgold… dont worrie about Joe the homo.. hes nothing more a key mashing bitch… internet bangin. FAG!! you’d get tossed up.

  • Ninerfan81

    I for one don’t but much stock into the hiring of any OC, because I couldn’t even care who our OC was during those great Superbowl days of the Bill Walsh era.

    That’s what we need to remember, not that I’m comparing Walsh to Singletary (not even close..yet) but the HC is the most important piece to the puzzel.

    I truely believe Sing has a vision, something Nolan lacked, and he’s the right guy for the job. Because the players believe in him!

    Just win baby!!

  • Lowrance

    This is my fault. I’m the one who said just SIGN an OC so we can move forward!!!! Be careful what you wish for, lol.

    I do hope this works out. I’m so tired of throwing things at my TV!

  • James

    Lowrance: I agree with you, I grew weary of this actions years ago. It’s why I have invested in the wonderful invention that is the “Bad Call Brick”

    http://www.funcarnival.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=TUR0571

    The one I have is 49er specific with team logo. I love it and since I have purchased a 56 inch Toshiba DLP saved me about $2300 last season.

    Ninerfan81, I agree that those years presented some great offenses and that perhaps who the OC was at different times was not of great consequence, but I digress. Walsh was there, it was HIS offense that was installed and his OC’s learned the offense directly from him.

    Walsh is not coming back to lead the way so I would have to say that who the OC is now is very siginificant. If the head coach was a Shanahan or a Holmgren then again it might not matter but being that the team has an offensive neophyte at the helm, the man calling the plays on offense next season matters quite a bit in my opinion.

    Having said this, I know that Raye is not the sexy choice (not that there were any real sexy choices to begin with) and fails to put the masses at ease he was the man chosen so the fanbase is going to have to get behind him and the rest of the team. Who knows, it might turn out to be better then expected.

  • miscus555

    it doesn’t matter who we have at OC. if we execute on offense, play solid defense, have a good turnover ratio, and control the line of scrimmage, we will win alot of games.

    don’t buy into alot of these coaches that were available, gruden inherited that tbay superbowl team, shanahan isn’t shit without elway. even tomlin came into a talented team that cowher left.

    i guess we’ll see how we do. i don’t think i’ll be able to stomach a below average offense next year though…

  • Texas9er

    Joe you are a fucking idiot. Just reading your comments show what kind of maturity level you have . That shit might work in junior high but most of use are grown men not 8th graders. Every time I see your name on here your constantly talking shit about someone. If you don’t have anything good to say then don’t say anything. Go hangout with your pimple faced friends in the lunchroom and talk shit with them because we don’t want to see it anymore. You need to grow the fuck up.

  • http://www.hotmail.com Ryan the 1st

    You never know what this guy might be made of….the Chronicle sure didn’t say much positive about him. I have NO IDEA who this guy is so we will see. He could be really good, but he also could be REALLY bad. This guy is such a mistery to me that I have no idea what to think about him.

  • http://www.hotmail.com Ryan the 1st

    mystery….excuse me…

  • Joey

    Is your pussy a Mystery Ryan the 1st

  • joe gomez

    Just to reiterate what Niner Pundit said. This is a horrible signing. That’s to say the least. If ant of you are trying to see this as a positive uour only lying to yourselves. This was a panic decision made by Sing since we were hitting a month without a name. Souza I say again quit hiding bitch quit being such a pussy! Texasniner go back to cowtown and go back to your brokeback mountain boyfriend and suck his nuts. Actually I’m convinced all you haters are Souza so it doesn’t matter. Bottom line is this is a fucked up hiring and we just downgraded our coaching staff on offense. This is seriously looking like a 2 yards and a cloud of dust offense. That is not 49ers football and all of you will see how our passing game will suffer.
    Linehan was the only guy I wouldve felt comfortable with and when he turned us down I was certain we were signing a mediocre no namer.

  • 5Rings

    This is what one NFL source said about this guy:

    “One NFL source who worked with Raye at one of those stops, questioned Raye’s abililty to communicate with players.”

    Man its gonna be another long season.

  • R,Craig33

    This is off of 49erswebzone

    49ers' offense will be revamped under Raye

    By Matthew Barrows

    mbarrows@sacbee.com

    Published: Friday, Jan. 30, 2009 | Page 7C

    SANTA CLARA – Four days before the 49ers' 2008 regular-season finale, Mike Singletary was asked whether Mike Martz's offense was the best he had seen since joining the 49ers.

    Singletary paused. When he opened his mouth, he didn't praise Martz, as expected. He, instead, cited the team's 2006 attack.

    "I think a couple of years ago, we had Norv Turner," Singletary said Dec. 24. "I thought Norv ended on a good note."

    Turner, the coach in San Diego, was not available when Singletary's search to find Martz's replacement began a week later. So Singletary ended up hiring the next-best thing: Jimmy Raye, a 32-year assistant who coached under Turner in Oakland from 2004 to 2005 and who, like Turner, is a disciple of longtime coordinator Ernie Zampese's so-called digit offense.

    Raye, 62, on Thursday said the offense he will bring to San Francisco will be similar to the one Turner ran in 2006. Two of the team's quarterbacks, Alex Smith and Shaun Hill, were on the roster then and would not have to learn an entirely new system this spring.

    The 49ers' 2009 offense also will resemble the one he ran in Kansas City from 1998 to 2000, Raye said. Those Chiefs teams were known for targeting the tight end – Tony Gonzalez, for the most part – in the passing game and for their hard-nose, up-the-gut rushing attacks. Gonzalez finished with 1,203 receiving yards in 2000 while quarterback Elvis Grbac threw for 4,169 yards and 28 touchdowns that season.

    Reached via telephone at his New York home, Raye said he will return to Santa Clara on Wednesday to begin film study on the team's personnel. He's only had glimpses of the players he will inherit so far but said what he's seen is encouraging.

    "I don't know if I can compare a Vernon Davis to a Tony Gonzalez because I haven't seen (Davis) yet," Raye said. "I know he has a tremendous upside. We will try to see if that's a fit for him. Frank Gore seems like he has the capability to carry the ball 25 times (a game)."

    One component Raye already realizes he is missing is a fullback. Raye favors a two-back system and had a lot of success in Kansas City with fullback Tony Richardson, a four-time Pro Bowl player. Richardson carried the ball 147 times for 697 yards in 2000.

    "(We) might need a big, square-backed guy who can go in and bloody some noses," Raye said.

    Raye also said he has spoken with Turner about Smith, the former No. 1 draft pick who had his best season under Turner in 2006. Smith would have to agree to a significant pay decrease to remain with the 49ers, but it seems increasingly likely he will remain on the roster. Smith, who had two shoulder surgeries in the last year, began throwing a football three weeks ago and should be at full strength by the spring.

    "I've talked to him a lot about Alex," Raye said of Turner. "He was very high on him. He qualified that with 'as long you do the things that (Smith) can do.' Now, what those things are is something I have to find out."

    As far as his compatibility with Singletary, Raye said the two had a productive meeting Wednesday, which led to Singletary offering Raye the job. Although the interview was their first face-to-face meeting, Raye revealed that he had had numerous phone conversations with Singletary that began shortly after the 2008 season ended.

    "He wants a tough-minded football team," Raye said. "He's a middle linebacker that understands the grunt part of the game, the briar patch if you will. He wanted to find someone with a similar vision."

  • MSouza

    Lol, thats it gomez, you finally realized you and I are the only people on this site, wow.

    Jones had a resurgent year, and the Jets started off pretty good. He had a two back offense, between Jones and Washington, which put up some pretty impressive numbers.

    Unfortunately, the negative greatly outweighs the positives in this case. I am a huge optimist by nature, but it is hard to convince myself that this will work out. Of course, as always, I will hope it does.

  • AXEGRINDER

    Rob….positively agree with everything you said….good reads.

  • Rob

    I think I’ve decided that I can accept this hire. Raye is certainly not who I would have preferred, but I’m not convinced we took a step down from Martz. Martz was just overrated. We saw that firsthand this season. I mean, our offense was ok, but nothing to write home about. But, we did inherit the bad traits of a Martz offense, including allowing a lot of sacks and turning the ball over. If Raye can keep the sack & turnovers down, and yet keep a similar level of productivity as we had this year (which wouldn’t be too difficult), I think he could actually be a step up from Martz. Plus, you get someone who is obviously in tune with Singletary, or else he wouldn’t have been hired so quickly.

    I think that history proves that Raye’s offenses are only as good as the talent on them. Which I think could be a good thing for us. We already have a great RB. We found two talented young receivers this year that I think will only be better next year. And, while Shaun Hill has many doubters (including Singletary), I think he has what it takes to succeed in the NFL, just without the impressive numbers.

    So, my point is that Raye is not the ideal choice, no. But, I really don’t think we are doing worse than we would have done with Martz. In fact, I think (and I know I will get torched for saying this) this could end up being a step up from Martz. Yes, I said it. So, I think I’m over my initial panic from this hire and am back to supporting Singletary. After all, he was ready to bench Hill during the Rams game, but he talked to Hill and decided to keep him in the game. Hill brought them back and won it. So, who am I to question Singletary’s gut?

    Go Niners!

  • R,Craig33

    Here’s another one.

    49ers’ choice Raye gets raves from former players
    Posted by Dan Brown on January 29th, 2009 at 4:44 pm | Categorized as Uncategorized

    Jimmy Raye’s resume as an offensive coordinator raises some questions.

    But his former players have answers.

    I spoke with Jackie Slater, the Hall-of-Fame offensive lineman, and Tony Richardson, a four-time Pro Bowl fullback, and both of them practically leaped through the telephone to praise the 49ers’ reported choice for offensive coordinator.

    “I think Jimmy Raye is one of the brightest minds in all of pro football,’’ Slater said. “And I think he’s been underutilized.”

    Richardson said: “Jimmy Raye is obviously a special individual for me. I think he’ll do a great job. He’s a great motivator and a very, very intelligent guy.”

    The glowing reports countered some of the head scratching prompted by the 49ers’ selection. In a dozen previous seasons as an offensive coordinator, Raye’s teams have finished in the top 10 for total yards just once – the 2000 Kansas City Chiefs.

    During Raye’s most recent stint as a coordinator, for the Raiders in 2004-05, he didn’t even call the plays; that duty belonged to head Coach Norv Turner. It was Ray’s job to give input to the running game and the Raiders’ ranked 32nd and 29th, respectively, during those seasons.

    In all, Raye has been a coordinator for six different teams. One NFL source who worked with Raye at one of those stops, questioned Raye’s abililty to communicate with players.

    Slater’s recollection is exactly the opposite. The seven-time Pro Bowls selection played for the Rams from 1976-95, said remembered that Raye was “comprehensive” in his preparation each week.

    “Then, on game days, we would here the echoes and the accuracy of what he had said,’’ Slater said. “If we did have some flaws, and the defense found it, (Raye) always had some counter-adjustment that would work.”

    Raye was the Rams’ coordinator in 1983-84 and ’91 and showed an uncanny knack for attacking a defense’s weakness. Eric Dickerson rushed for 1,808 yards during Raye’s first season and an NFL-record 2,105 yards the following season.

    Slater, who helped pave the way for those yards, said the Rams’ had some running plays that they would run “come hell or high water” because the team was so comfortable and so confident in its blocking schemes. It didn’t matter whether the defense knew what was coming.

    Slater added that Dickerson’s big season revealed another Raye trait: He maximized the talents of his best players.

    “That’s how good offensive minds work: They figure out how to use these weapons,” Slater said. “That tight end that the 49ers have who was drafted really high (Vernon Davis), he’s going to be a great player – not just an average one – in Jimmy Raye’s offense.”’

    Richardson had similar praise. He also has more recent experienced. Raye, 62, was Richardson’s running backs coach with the New York Jets last season. Together, they helped running back Thomas Jones lead the AFC with 1,312 yards.

    Richardson played for the Kansas City Chiefs from 1995-2005, and enjoyed some of his best seasons with Raye as offensive coordinator. For the 2000 team, which ranked eighth in the NFL, Richardson rushed for 697 yards and had 58 catches for 468 yards.

    Quarterback Elvis Grbac threw for 4,169 yards and 28 touchdowns.

    “He had a lot to do with that,’’ Richardson said. “He held everyone to a high standard,’’ Richardson said. “When you sat down to watch those game films, you knew if you did your job or not.”

    Last season, Richardson got a reminder of Raye’s insistence on fundamentals. Even though he is 37-years-old, Raye kept reminding him of the basics as if he were a rookie.

    “He’s not a rah-rah, jump-on-the-table kind of guy,’’ Richardson said. “But he gets guys ready to play. With what he does during the week, he takes the guesswork out of everything.”

  • Niner81

    You remember Shannahan and Holmgren because they were a by-product of the Bill Walsh West Coast Offense. It was the “system” that made the team a successful Superbowl team and NOT the other way around.

    Who would you rather have had during our Superbowl days…Mike Shannahan or Bill Walsh? Exactly!

    We now that the hiring of Mike Martz was a knee-jerk react and a quick fix by Nolan to try and say his sorry ass. But that were more problems in the Locker then a lack of TDs. Singletary took his time to make the “RIGHT” decision and that’s more then I can say for the last OC hiring.

    We need to start showing Mike Singletary some respect because the players respect him. And has a fan since 1981…that’s good enough for me.

  • Niner81

    Sorry for the grammatical errors but I typed my last entry very fast.

    :)

  • joe gomez

    Souza.. can you read bitch, I said all the stupid ass comments are made for you. There are actual “real” 49ers fans on here you not counting you and your other 2 to 3 fucked up personalities. Get help soon Souza, medication will be the best way to go.

  • joe gomez

    No matter how we look at it, there is no way in hell this fruitcake is going to be better than Martz. He has a history of some of the worst offenses in history. Martz has a history of great offenses and a Super Bowl ring. Theres not even a comparison. For those of you who remain optimistic, thats fine, lets ride with Sing. I can do the same thing, but im just not going to endorse this hiring because it fucking stinks.

  • Texas9er

    Joe Gomez your the most mature person I have ever seen. The greatness you show on your writting is amazing. Did you go to An Ivy league school or were you just born of greatness. LOL. Its real easy to talk shit with a keyboard but Im 100% sure that if I was in your face ready to knock you out you wouldn't say shit. For those of you that don't know me Im 6'5 290lbs and I am a Bailbondsman, So I make a living taking pieces of shit like you to jail. So you can act cool all you want to on the internet but Carma is a bitch and one day somebody is going to fuck you up I just hope I have the chance one day. Go ahead a say what ever retarded comments about my sexuality that you want but the truth is you are a pussy. I can tell by the statements you leave on here. Just a pimple faced pussy who is probably a virgin living with his grandmother because his mom is a Methhead and you don't know who your daddy is .

  • R,Craig33

    I’m with you gomez I’m just tired of the mediocore bullshit every year and trying to keep positive about it but yeah it’s a let down and it does fucking stinks but he just might prove us wrong but according to his resume he just might not!

  • joe gomez

    People take my negative comments and think I love talking shit about our Niners. I just want the best for our team plain and simple. If I see mediocre bullshit moves im going to fucking explode because I am so fucking tired of losing year after fucking year. Its time to put some winners on our team from top to bottom no matter what it takes and I just dont see that with this fucked up hiring. Very disappointing.

  • West

    Raye, 62, on Thursday said the offense he will bring to San Francisco will be similar to the one Turner ran in 2006. Two of the team’s quarterbacks, Alex Smith and Shaun Hill, were on the roster then and would not have to learn an entirely new system this spring.

    The 49ers’ 2009 offense also will resemble the one he ran in Kansas City from 1998 to 2000, Raye said. Those Chiefs teams were known for targeting the tight end – Tony Gonzalez, for the most part – in the passing game and for their hard-nose, up-the-gut rushing attacks. Gonzalez finished with 1,203 receiving yards in 2000 while quarterback Elvis Grbac threw for 4,169 yards and 28 touchdowns that season.

  • http://ertettr #1

    Stop complaining Niner pundit. Maybe Sings knows something you don’t. Have you ever played team football before besides Madden 94′. Dude, you complain about a hiring that you don’t even know the outcome of. They hired this guy for a reason, maybe sing felt he was more qualified and committed long term compared to the other candidates.
    Stop complaining and be POSITIVE for ONCE, or get off this site please. I am asking you nicely,

    Thanks,

    #1

  • Rob

    Wow, I would say NinerPundit is nothing compared to the negativity oozing from some of the people on here.

    You know, I’m sick of losing as much as anyone. I have seriously contemplated giving up on the Niners many times the past few years. My wife’s family are all Steelers fans. Do you know how hard it is to keep defending the Niners to people who are used to their team vying for the Superbowl every year? It’s just embarrasing! And, seeing one stupid move after another just gets exhausting. And, I’m willing to admit that this might be another stupid move in a long history of stupid moves. But, my point is that some people on here act like Martz would have solved all our problems, and I have yet to see any evidence, or even arguments, to support that.

    Raye is not what I was hoping for in a new OC. But, he is the guy Singletary picked. And, so far he has made all the right choices. So, at this point, I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and hope he knows what he is doing. Has anyone seen any articles where Singletary discusses hiring Raye? I would love to hear what he has to say about him and why he deserved the job.

  • Ninerfan81

    Very interesting KNBR interview yesterday with Jim Trotter, the SI reporter who, along with Adam Schefter, broke the news about the Jimmy Raye hire Wednesday evening. According to Trotter, before Mike Singletary made his final choice for offensive coordinator, he brought the two finalists, Raye and Hue Jackson, and had them sit down and talk football with the rest of his assistants, both offensive and defensive. After the session, Singletary then asked the assistants to make a choice. According to Trotter, it was unanimous in favor of Raye.
    And people on this board have the nerve to say he doesn’t know what he’s doing…you should be ashamed.

    Singletary Made Staff Decide!

    This seems to be vintage Singletary. His management style, one that was effective late in the season, is one of ownership. That is, he has the people involved, in this case his assistants, buy into the decisions that are being made. It reminds me of the late-season game in St. Louis during which Shaun Hill was struggling mightily and was nearly benched for J.T. O’Sullivan. Following the near benching, Singletary brought Hill to the sideline, gathered the rest of the offensive players around the quarterback and said, “You guys figure this out.” Then he walked away. The approach was the polar opposite of Mike Nolan’s micromanagement style. And it also was effective. Hill and the 49ers scored two late-game touchdowns and enjoyed a last-minute win over the Rams.

  • Lowrance

    Let’s hope it works as well with the Niners Ninerfan81….

    It would be nice…

  • Shane Rojek

    We’ll be fine as long as the ball touches gore 25 plus a game,, thats the only f***in resolution.. i can be the OC, run it with gore and be conservative in the passing game WTF is so hard about this but no martz couldnt do it so thats why hes out…

  • Medford

    This guy look’s like Fred Sanford

  • Mike in MD

    Ninerfan81 – there’s conflicting info about that. Barrows said that’s how it went down. Reading Kawakami’s blog he’s telling his readers straight from the transcript he got from a fellow co-worker. This seems more accurate. He got his assistants opinions but HE MADE THE FINAL DECISION, HE DIDN’T LET THEM MAKE THEM MAKE THE DECISION FOR HIM. I’m still holding my judgement on the hire until the Bye week. Based on Raye’s record I don’t like the hire. I want to give Sing his chance though & see how this works out after the 1st 8 games. So far he’s earned his shot.

    From the transcript given to Kawakami:

    -Q: There was a report that you had your current assistants vote and they wanted Raye, which sealed it for him. Was it that vote that got him the job?

    -SINGLETARY: Not at all. The thing that I wanted to do is make sure, because we have a staff that I think is pretty special, which is evident in why I kept ‘em. The guys that we have in that offensive room are, I think, outstanding.

    So for me, it was very important for them to get a feel for who it was. Not just me sitting down and talking to the possible candidates.

    I did not ask them to select (the OC). I asked them to give me your thoughts and give me their thoughts—can you work with these people?

    (Singletary said the response was all positive about Raye.)

    As far as making that decision, I was going to make that decision. But I just wanted to make sure they can take some ownership as well.

  • Mike in MD

    The above partial transcript was from Singletary’s conference call announcing the hiring of Raye as his OC.

  • Ninerfan81

    Yes I read that too.

  • James

    #1 considering that Niner Pundit owns the site and has since it’s inception I would have to say that you’re friggin dilusional in telling him to leave.

    The man has been positive on more occasions than most so how about you take a step back, check yourself and allow those who want to express their opinions do so?

    Just saying man, coming on here and calling out anyone for their opinion is not condusive of being welcomed. Perhaps you don’t care about that and since it’s an internet site however if you’re going to accuse someone of being negative there are far better targets then Pundit.

    Good God you guys are seriously a bunch of little girls!!!

    “Oh, I’m 6’5 290 pounds, I hope I get to fuck you up someday”

    “Fuck you asshole, you don’t know shit”

    Come the hell on guys!!! This is fuckin pathetic and it is really getting fuckin tired. Just shut the hell up already and let’s talk Niners with some god damn semblance of maturity, FUCK!!!

  • Texas9er

    IF I have a person Calling me gay you damn right I going to say something. I hardly never say anything bad on this site but on several occasions Joe has insulted me and about 10 other people. Im tired of reading this shit everyday. Yeah maybe I shouldn’t have said some of those things but the guy is an idot. And just cause you run a wesbsite doesn’t mean that your shit don’t stink. I don’t even live anywhere close to San Francisco and I now as much if not more about the 49ers than you do. James your saying to me fuck you asshole you don’t know shit. No you don’t know shit. Just cause you get to write your little stories on here and feel like you are important and you have your picture beside your name doesn’t mean shit.

  • http://www.facekitty.com wendell

    i think if you combined all of the football knowledge in this blog, it would amount to less than one tenth of coach singletary’s knowledge. am i excited about raye? not necessarily. do i have faith in the hiring due to singletary’s knoweldge, absolutely. most of the whiners on this blog don’t know the first thing about the x’s and o’s of football so i wouldn’t question the decision until you’ve seen the result.

  • Medford

    I AGREE WITH YOU 100% JAMES!!!! Enough of this name calling and crap on this site. We are all 49er fan’s right? Some are more verbal than other’s that’s fine with me this has alway’s been a place for me and other’s to vent when we are mad at the 49er’s. Why because we love this team!!!!

  • #1

    JAMES, JAMES, JAMES, JAMES. Do everyone a favor and wipe the brown stuff off your knows. Lets talk football and stop brown nosing.

  • Texas9er

    Joe your in law enforsement? OK! If you were you would realize that I carry a gun 24/7 and I don't have a record and I do have more ethority that a police officer does when I go after people who skip court or don't pay. I can kick in a door without a warrant and I get paid about 6 times more than a cop does. If you were in law enforsment you would know that. As for my size. I did play football at Baylor University but I blew out my knee. I wasn't the best or anything but I did walk on and make the team. I don't want to keep talking shit like 12year old girls. I think we need to squash this shit and get back to talking football. I realize that you love this team as much as me but the way you say things on here rubbs people the wrong way. And for the Record I don't live in Texas anymore I live in North Carolina.

  • joe gomez

    Well as far as Niner Pundit and James goes they have outstanding knowledge on 49ers football. They belong on this site. Other guys like West, Mike in MD, Adam49, Los Banos Jerry…they know their shit too. Now all the other dipshits who claim to be 49ers fans it’s just plain fucking hilarious what they say. 49ertexas or whatever your fucking name is, so your jolly green giant huh? Haha…really? Probably got cut on every team you tried out for so now you have to tell everyone what your size is but really your a scrawny piece of shit who dreams of being big. You see big guys don’t come out and say shit like that so I know for a fuckin fact your full of shit! Haha… Bounty hunter? Please bitch, you’ve been watching too much A&E. I’m in Law Enforcement and get to carry off duty unlike you. They don’t trust people like you with weapons because you probably have a record. I’m a sworn peace officer and your just a thug chasing thugs. But your probably lying about that too huh faggot? Tell us the truth bitch, your over there in Texas working as a cow herder and at night when nobodys looking you fuck them cows in the ass don’t you boy? Fucking queer! Get off this site dick licker we don’t need you and your pathetic comments!

  • joe gomez

    Ok now back to football. To all the REAL 49ers fans I apologize. Pundit & James, sorry for the language. I think the main problem most people have with this guy is when you look at his history and the rankings it shows that he hasn’t done shit. The one year that stands out is the year Dickerson broke the record. Other than that his resume stinks. Most people were expecting a proven winner and that’s not what we got. We really don’t know what hell bring to the table but if he repeats history, it’s not gonna be good. We just need to get more talent on our roster. Get rid of mediocre players and players with no heart like J. Jennings. Players who are plainly not very good like Sims, Battle, Robinson, Smith, & Roman. Yes I said it, I don’t think Robinson is very good. He’s got some skills in S. Teams but I hate to see him in the backfield.
    I really hope they take a long look at Clayton next season, he’s a bruiser and that’s what we need if were gonna be a smash mouth offense. Can’t always be Gore all the time. We gotta be like the Titans and mix up the carries so the different styles will throw off the opposing defense. Let’s get a good draft and we should make some noise next year.

  • joe gomez

    They let you carry as a bounty hunter? I guess in TX anybody can carry. I'm sure you can't carry concealed since you aren't a sworn peace officer. Hey Pundit I will try to keep it civil as long as they keep it civil. Let's roll with this new OC and hope for the best.

  • Lowrance

    It would be nice to talk football.
    James is 100% right. Please get it, you guys who just name call.
    I come to this sight before any other because I like what Pundit presents here. I’m probably older than most everyone and have been a fan since the late 60’s. (When did we have Dave Parks, John Brodie, and Cedrick Hardman on the D line?)
    I’m probably bigger than any of you at 6’6″ and 300lbs, but this is the internet and any little asshole can write whatever they feel.
    But this is a 49er football sight. I come here to get updates and opinions. Several of you are so intense in your investigation of upcoming talent that I love hearing what’s available to us in the draft, and who’s available in free agency. But the name calling drives me crazy too.

    We’re all frustrated with this OC search after the last few years of futility. But I think Gary Radnich(sp?) said it best last night on channel 4. Wait 4 games and then jump all over this guy if the Niners offense doesn’t produce.

    Most everyone here loves Singletary already for his back to toughness and “team” play. Wew’re just going to have to trust him, no matter how many stupid decisions Nolan put us through.

    I’ve complained here too. I think what we’ve been through with Nolan and before has made that venting possible. Hell, Pundit has too. Why? Because we’re all fans and WANT TO WINN DAMMIT!!!

    I, for one, thank Pundit for having this sight and sharing his knowledge. James 49er thoughts are also welcome. I just cringe thinking he’s wearing Dodger Blue as he types, LOL.

    C’MON SING MAKES US PROUD AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!

  • frankie lane

    texas9er I don't care how big you are I would kick you right in the ankle and lauhg a you fall. you big dumb turd go back to texas. yeah just to lett you know iam 5 9' and 225 who the hell cares cause I ll hit you in the face with a pot of hot coffee take your own advide and don't act like a bad ass when your type on the internet

  • joe gomez

    Ninaz they don't carry guns. They are not sworn peace officers let's get that straight. They carry OC or gas with cuffs. If texas49er carries a gun in NC as a bounty hunter than I guess they have different laws. BH's in Cali don't carry guns, too much of a liability in a state that's number one in lawsuits. I am sworn State Peace Officer, which means I can also carry concealed while off duty. Any more questions? If you don't have anymore stupid comments than maybe we can go back to 49ers football.

  • DavinMiguel

    Texas9er you are not even believable! And if you are a bondsman you wont be one for long i promise that. A bondsman does not make a fuckin living off taking assholes to jail you idiot! We make a living doing great things for individuals who need us during the hardest times in thier lives, with your attitude you probably dont get much business and any business you do get they take flight because your so dam ignorant noone cares how large you are your obviously a bitch. I also got 20 yrs niners football and Gomez is rite on this hire does not look pretty on paper. All us true niner fans can do is hope this is a piece to Sings puzzle its too early to throw in the towel and start whining its time to start winning!!! Texas9er ill smash on you and get bonded out quicker im only 5'9 Let it be known who you are and what bail company you work for if your so much about yours dont be a bitch

  • http://www.indianajim.net Indiana Jim

    Well, this has certainly descended into pathetic-ville.

    I read above: “Be nice. Keep it clean. Stay on topic. No spam.”

    Well, at least you guys have got the “No spam” part right.

    James, I agree with you, but as a writer for this site I think your response could have been delivered both nicely and cleanly.

    Pundit, I think perhaps you judge Jimmy Raye too harshly when we haven’t even played a single down. He’s never been exactly surrounded by talent. He got Elvis friggin’ Grbac to throw for 4100 yards, so he can’t be as bad as people assume he is. When you approach coaching with professionalism, thoroughness and integrity, it’s up to the players to complete the task.

    Also… I would think you guys could delete the immature and pointless chest-thumping comments.

  • http://www.hotmail.com Ryan the 1st

    Joe I would have no problem with all of those players going except Robinson…he is a great player.

  • http://www.hotmail.com Ryan the 1st

    However, I do agree that all this STAY POSITIVE stuff is all fine….when your team DOESN’T EARN a top ten draft pick three out of the last four years. yeah, the patriots got ours last year, but we still seem to be finishing in the bottom ten or eleven teams consistently….not much to be positive about. I think we all want the niners to get out of this funk and SOON.

  • Niner Pundit

    I do apologize for lack of moderation. Unfortunately I can’t be on here 24/7. So I just ask let’s all keep it civil, you don’t have to like everyone, but at least keep the name calling to a minimum.

    We here want people to express themselves on how they feel about the team and the organization, and don’t want to lay down a hammer and delete posts. We are not ones to force our opinions down anyone throats. We understand not everyone will see eye to eye. All I ask is keep name calling to a minimum, you have every right to think others are idiots. Instead of the name calling argue your point and let others do the same.

    Carry on…

  • Texas9er

    Yes your right I don't get paid to break doors down and take people to jail. Im also not a dick to people I treat them with respect but when you bond someone out with a $50,000 bond and instead of making them give you $7500 to get out I let people make payments but when someone takes advantage of my kindness and doesn't pay or skips court your damn right Im an asshole. Joe your buddy apperantly doesn't know the bonding business very well. We get paid 15% of the bond to get someone out. Me and my partner have 5 offices in North Carolina, one on Camp Lejune and One by Cherry Point Marine base. Ask your buddy if he has ever heard of AFFORD-A-BOND Most of our offices average 50,000 to $100,000 in Bonds a week. 15% of that is profit just out of one office. Take away the cost of bills and that pretty good money. About 5 grand a week. I know for a fact that no Cop makes that and nobody in the military makes that so get your fucking fact straight before you talk shit. And for Davinmiguel I don't give a fuck if you believe me or not, all I know is that I make paper and you don't. You can take that how ever you want it but when you go to work on Monday at your shitty ass job Ill be driving my Charger and making more money in a week than you make in a month. Fuck the rest of you all on here if you got a problem with me. I have been a member of this website for three years now and never talked shit but Im tired of reading Joes Bullshit. there isn't one person on this website that knows more about football and the 49ers than me and I don't even live in California. So fuck you

  • AXEGRINDER

    If we can keep the discussions about football and not let it get personal, there really should be no problems in here. It's pretty simple. People are going to disagree, it's inevitable. I'm fairly sure most people in here want the 49ers to win, and when they don't, we start attacking each other's opinions with foul language and empty threats. I let my frustrations get the better of me with Ryan the 1st, and I regret it. All the negativity on this site got to be too much, and I wrongfully took it out on him. I tried to battle all the negativity with more negativity. Pretty ironic.

    John Madden once said: "Winning is the best deodorant."

    Anyway, West and Joe Gomez, I'm also with you guys about M. Robinson. I like him, but not as a RB. I don't know where he fits in, if anywhere. With that being said, I'm nearly 100% sure he'll be back next year. I would also like to see what Clayton can do before some other team snatches him up. I would also like to see us get a big, bruising fullback ala Tom Rathman. And I don't think that Ivy league dreadlock mofo Zak Keasey is it. He ain't shit, in my opinion.

  • West

    AXEGRINDER… Word is Tony Richardson, a four-time Pro Bowl fullback, that has played under Raye in K.C. an last year as a Jet could be joining us… He is a F.A. and would come in knowing the system, which would be good for Gore….Gore's buddy Moran Norris is also a F.A. i believe!!

  • West

    Free Agency talk sounds good……..One person I hope we land is Oshiomogho Atogwe (FS) from Rams…. Any thoughts James an company?

    AXEGRINDER, I'm getting the feeling they like McDonald on the other side of Smith… I personally also like McDonald, quick off the ball an yes I know it gets him in trouble at times but I think he can prove himself to become a starter…Sooner than later is always good! Sing has said he wants to bring in a QB in Free Agency, 2 names I can think of off top are J. Garcia an B. Leftwich, both WCO guys…..

  • AXEGRINDER

    West, I agree fully that McDonald has outstanding potential. It's been proven year after year that D-linemen coming out of college take longer to acclimate to the NFL than perhaps any other position, which is why I'm still holding onto a shred of hope that Balmer will prove something next year. McDonald improved over his rookie season, and perhaps he can really show something next year also. I for one still wouldn't mind seeing Terrell Suggs in a 49er uniform.

    As far as the QB situation, I recall Sing saying that they might go after a QB in free agency OR the draft. I would be disappointed if they picked up a free agent QB. I like what Hill has done and while he may not be the answer long term, he is NOT going to be the reason the 49ers lose games. (Hopefully they don't lose many games at all) And while this may not be a popular opinion, I like A. Smith in the #2 position. He showed something in '06 under THIS offensive system, and Nolan is not here to mismanage the quarterbacks. I'm still wondering what he can do when he's not thrown under the bus by his coach. All that being said, I'd like them to pick up a #3 QB with potential in the 3rd or even 4th round in the draft and have him ride the bench for a couple years.

    We really need a fullback who can block and catch balls out of the backfield. It is a very very important position especially if you have an offense that starts with a power running game.

  • Ninaz

    Joe Gomez, all bounty hunters a required to carry a handgun your obviously not a cop or anything of that nature otherwise you would have known that kicking down criminals doors is not the safest job in the world and fight training will only get you so far. And frankie lane i picture you as a short fat beaner. I was 5’7 in middle school your pretty sad.

  • joe gomez

    Hey Texas I’ve got some old marine corps buddies who are law enforcement in NC. He says there is no way a bounty hunter makes more than him. He’s been a cop there for about 15 years. California cops probably triple NC cops salary. Anyways your size and your salary means very little to this site but just thought I’d tell you what he said. But hey if your a die hard 49ers fan living in NC then go represent us down there big guy. Ryan you really think Robinson is great? He’s a good special teamed but I just don’t see him breaking any tackles and his speed is very average. I think Clayton can take that spot away from him. You know being that Robinson and Battle were QB’s in college I don’t understand why they never ran option plays with them having the green light to throw it. I may be wrong but I’ve never seen it happen once. Mark my words, Clayton is a beast and people will start calling for him.

  • DavinMiguel

    Im sorry for gettin off football but i wont come to this site ever again as long as thers individuals like texas9er on here. 49er fan for life but that guys the biggest bitch i ever encountered on any online forum.

  • MSouza

    If we go after a pass rush guy in FA I doubt it will be an end. Something that I have noticed with 3-4 teams is that one DE is a rusher while the other is there to take up bodies. Calais Campbell with the Dolphins, kind of guy, its a weak example but first one to come to mind.

    If we go after a pass rusher it will be an OLB, or at least somebody that they want to convert to it. I understand the reasoning that Suggs is more realistic than Peppers, for all the reasons listed above by AXE, but if it were me calling the shots, I would go with Peppers. I think he is correct to think that the 4-3 has limited his potential and would love to see what he would do as a OLB rusher. He has the build for it, and the speed.

    The one and only reason why I think that Robinson is better than Clayton is his blocking. He understands protections so well and always picks up the free man. Even in preseason, I noticed Clayton whiffed a few times and got the QB, I think it was Hill, crushed. Clayton looks to be a natural runner, but that isn't all that is necessary in the NFL. Don't get me wrong, Robinson is not a true RB, and may never develop into one, but his pass blocking ability and special teams presence gets him a spot on my roster. Plus he is a good locker room guy.

  • joe gomez

    Texas49er, it's all good man I understand the frustrations you have to let out over the dissapointing seasons we've had for awhile now. Just a little advice man, if your gonna hoot & hollar about how much money you make don't boast about a Dodge Charger. All our teenagers here in Cali drive those. Anyways I'm also down to keep it straight as long as other people keep it straight. Ask West if I've ever said anything towards him. He keeps it strictly niner talk so we've NEVER had any problems. If guys personally attack me then I've got no choice but to retaliate. So I will try my best to keep it cool and clean towards everyone. That includes you Souza if you promise to only use one username… Haha…oh and if SarahPalin is out there, you remember Miss "run the ball & vote" person. Whoever you are, you can shock me and agree to keep it Niner talk or we can go at each others throats again. Don't really matter to me.

    Axe you are right Keasey is a joke. Too small to be a FB. We should get back Moran since that's Gore's buddy. As far as A. Smith sticking around I would say cut him and see if he can get a fresh start somewhere else. His sorry career isn't all Nolans fault now. He's had hundreds of reps and plenty of chances to show something. He's just not very accurate. I would welcome any good FA QB to compete with Hill. I don't think Hill is the answer to that position. Let's hope for a good draft. I want Crabtree but I know he'll be gone.

    I'm going for the Cardinals in the big game only because I don't want to see the Steelers get #6. It's funny because Randy Cross said the same thing but Lott is taking Pittsburgh saying he is a fan of true champions.

  • Desert9er

    Ugh, all this arguing… sorry guys but:

    Click here…

    Now for the rest complaining about Raye… we're all in one of these camps:

    1.) You love Singletary and he is God… so God has chosen so shut up.

    2.) You never liked Singletary and thus you definitely don't like this pick either… so you just keep going praying/hoping that you were wrong.

    3.) You're so-so on Singletary who is still not proven but you took it on faith to trust he-with-not-much-coaching-experience… so just keep going with the hope/faith thing.

    Decision was made… time to move on folks. Here's hoping to the draft being exciting and us getting lucky this upcoming season. In this day and age of free agency, enormous contracts for rookies, fantasy football, and the like.. it's all a crap shoot every year anyway. PARITY. w00t! Hope this year's the year where the 49ers reach the critical mass of players having super years.

  • West

    Joe Gomez…. I’m with u in regards to Clayton, I was hoping we would get a good chance last year to see what he can do once Frank went down…. Looks good in preseason…..Seen what Robinson can do as a runner an Im not impressed, Think Clayton better fit….. Dont get me wrong, Robinson is good in Wildcat type formations and is a Beast on Special Teams……Just my 2 cents

  • Texas9er

    After today Im done Talking shit. I know this website is for 49ers fans and I do realise that everyone on here is a 49ers fan. I don’t know why we can’t get along. I apolgize for some of the things I have said on here. I come home from my office tired and in a bad mood most of the time and I say things before I should. I just hope that this next season is a good one because Im all just like you I hate this loosing shit. Joe I don’t want to talk shit anymore but there were a few things I had to get off my chest. JAMES I would like to appologize for the things I said last night. You and NINERPUNDIT have givin this website alot of good redsing materal. I want to go back to comming on this site and talking about football but for about a year all I see is people talking shit to each other. 2 days ago was the first time I ever said anything negative about someone and about 6 people got pissed. Now Im not trying to back out of what I said but all Im saying is that there is now need for me to say that shit on here. From now on I will keep it clean. Lets Rock and Roll 49ers on 2009

  • http://www.hotmail.com Ryan the 1st

    No, don’t get me wrong Joe Gomez….that is what I was implying….Robinson IS a great talent on special teams. I just don’t see it from the running back (so far). I also would love to know the reason why Clayton remains on the practice squad. However, I don’t this will be a shocker to anyone on this site, but don’t be surprised if the niners pick up a late round running back who is a bruiser like that Hill guy from Wisconsin. Word was when the niners drafted Clayton McClueless called Gore ahead of time to let him know and Gore wasn’t very happy about it.

  • James

    Indiana, I agree with you and I apologize for the comments. I was merely fed up with the BS that is going on and I allowed it to get to me.

    Texas, ok man. I feel important because I write for this site and I have my picture on here. You know as much if not more about the 49ers then me? Alright, this whole thing is laughable. If you know so much about the team then post something insightful instead of your back and forth with Joe and whoever else.

    #1 don’t talk to me about talking football please as that is 99% of what I do here. And I don’t have to brown nose or knows anyone here but nice try.

    Now for real guys, lets talk about something interesting like free agency for example.

  • James

    Texas, I posted my last before I read your last post. I agree that we should all just talk 49er football since that is what we all care about the most here.

  • AXEGRINDER

    James, I read in Barrows blog that he thought Peppers would be more of a risk than Suggs because Peppers never played OLB and the Niners would not invest alot of $$ in someone like that. He also said Suggs would be more realistic. I think they’ll go after a pass rusher in free agency, just my opinion. I think an end to compliment Smth or an OLB that can get after the QB is probably the our biggest priority. I know they already got Sopoaga, McDonald, Harylson, ect. I don’t think TBC will be back next season. Your thoughts?

  • http://www.indianajim.net Indiana Jim

    Pundit and James, roger roger and no hard feelings for ya, fellas. Thanks for at least TRYING to lead by example. Seems a few knuckleheads didn’t get the message. :D

  • http://www.hotmail.com Ryan the 1st

    Does anyone have a specific number on the niners cap room? I am wondering if we would have a enough money to go after Housh and Otogwe? That would address some MAJOR needs…and I won't have to look at Roman on the field. I THOUGHT that Goldston would grab that role from him by the start of next season, but it sounds like some are skeptical about that. IF we landed both of those players we could REALLY address some needs in the draft. Right tackle, defensive end, an eventual successor for Spikes (should we resign him), and MAYBE another corner. The QB drafting is a no brainer. I am hoping we lander Painter in the later rounds as of this moment.

  • Mike in MD

    Ryan the 1st – the early knock on Clayton was he danced too much before hitting the hole & he would go down after the initial hit. He was real raw coming in as a Rookie of course but Gore really helped him out a lot. He's greatly improved & is running with more thump & confidence. I thought he deserved his shot to get some PT. Reports are that he's been busting his tail in practice & has been looking good. Hopefully he'll get some next year finally.

    As for Robinson if he doesn't settle into a position in the Offense next year (RB or FB) we can't diddle around anymore. (Another freakin' "project" pick. Unbelievable. PLEASE MCSING, GET A CLUE…NO MORE OF THESE!!!!) We need people who can play those positions FT who are legit. I'm sure we'll be filling those needs this year. So my question is are there teams who keep players on their rosters ONLY for special teams? If we have space we keep him there for that where he's a standout player. If that's all he does he's expected & needs to be knocking people's heads on every play because he's only going to be getting paid for a handful of plays every game. I love the guy on teams, he pumps the team up with his play & he's a good locker room team guy. This is how I predict he'll turn out, mostly a ST's guy.

    One trade partner I think Robinson could go to is Sean Peyton in New Orleans. Very creative playcaller who needs more playmakers since Bush gets oft injured & Deuce just made his come back from rehab. He can make his occasional runs in the backfield, be a blocking/pass catching FB, & be on teams for them. Unfortunately in Peyton's hand he just might be able to create Robinson into a valuable legit Offensive player with his knowledge on that side of the ball that our team lacks.

  • mountain 9er

    desert 9er, that was just stupid. Sing is god??? shut that stupid shit up.

  • Mike in MD

    Niner cap info should be on this site: http://www.ninercaphell.com/

    I heard we have plenty of room this year & should be going for at least 3 FA's per info from one of the local reporters. Their saying McSing wants to go after a VET FA Free Safety especially & not a rookie one for immediate impact + knows the game already avoiding serious mistakes that could cost you TD's off of blown coverages.

  • DavinMiguel

    Lets try to stay on football all of us but not before i tell Texas9er big man your not representing Bail Bondsmans very well at all your obviously new to this business. Bay Area Bondsman 10 yrs Niner fan since Montana/Rice days. My opinion is Sing has not proven a whole to us other than 500 football since hes arrived. True he has a ring and he was a Monster as a Bear. There isnt a whole lot to be optimistic about 9er fans been thru this before. This is a good forum unfortunetly asses like Texas manage to mess it up. 10% in Cali and yes we do finance.

  • Jesse

    This was a comment on MM's blog, and I couldn't agree with it more. Just thought I'd share it on here.

    "The 80s 49ers and Eddie D were derailed by the Salary Cap and a Louisiana Riverboat Gambling indictment Terry.

    Eddie did not want to have the team removed from his family of course so the charade began.

    We who have been fans before, during and after that period, have remained optimistic through some troubling times.

    Donahue was asleep at the switch, the Cap Purge gutted the team, York handed it to Nolan who felt you start your tenure with a QB instead of linemen and defense, and so on and so on.

    Now we've transitioned from Dr to Jed, Nolan to Mike, Martz to Raye.

    It's part of sports. Change sucks. Nobody wins forever, the enjoyment is the optimism.

    When it gets too bleek for some people, they jump back to the winners, or the bandwagon.

    If you're a loyal fan, vent and remain loyal.

    If not, jump on another bandwagon.

    Raye could be lightning in a bottle, Sing could be the next Bill Walsh, who's to say?

    Watch and see where it goes. We've been in flux long enough to know it's hard to correct the comedy of errors this franchise has generated.

    How many franchises have won 5 SBs? How many are 5-0?

    Keep the faith, it's part of being a loyal and devoted fan.

    Feel free to vent, that's what we do here.

    We can't all be right, we're spectators.

    What I want is a change in attitude, Mike has done that.

    Step 2 is confidence. Mike was a superstar in this league, he knows how to play and win.

    Now he has the chance to lead his own team.

    Pat him on the back and applaud his efforts.

    His passion for the game is worth a chance IMO.

    My guess is, Patrick will thrive with Mike as his leader.

    I can only hope Rathman and Raye can bring the same swagger to the offense now.

    Nothing ventured, nothing gained."

  • Texas9er

    Davinmiguel I said yesterday that im done. Your right I haven't been doing this as long as you. I just want to talk football but apperantly you didn't read my message. I said what I had to say and know its football 24/7. We are all 49er fans on here lets stop fighting with each other and start fighting with Cowboy, Seahawk, and Raider fans. Let bigons be bigons. Im finished I hope the rest of you can do the same.

  • West

    Ryan the 1st, hope this helps… Oshiomogho Atogwe (FS) from Rams is a MUST in my book…….Hous an Atogwe would be a bonus!! And i really dont see us getting Suggs

    9. San Francisco — $26m under – In 2007 and 2008 the 49ers were top-3 in cap room, so they’re still hanging in there nicely. They can cut QB Alex Smith and OT Jonas Jennings and free up $7.3 million more. Smith is coming off the busted shoulder and simply isn’t a great player. Jennings has missed all or parts of 47 games the last 4 years. DE Justin Smith’s big contract last year has a bloated cap figure for 2009 – $10.5 million – but they’ll let it ride. Ninersnation.com is clamoring for the team to land free-agent DE Terrell Suggs at all costs.

  • West

    Ryan da 1st, Mike n MD, Joe Gomez an Others

    It wont let me post da link…. Team Cap Breakdown, "type it in"

    http://boards.ign.com/football/b5105/176384945/r1

  • http://boards.ign.com/football/b5105/176384945/r176389806/ West

    We are sitting at number 9…when it comes to Cap…. Still looking good!!

  • West

    Pundit or James…..My comment is awaiting moderation.

  • Lowrance

    GO ARIZONA!!!!!

    Still miffed we fail to beat them on Monday Night Football.

    But don't want Pittsburg to have more Superbowl wins than the NINERS!!!!!

  • Underdog

    I hope the Red Birds win, because Kurt Warner is an underdog and thats what the 49ers before they won championships and no one respected them, whenever they won during those times, the national media never acknowledged them, never, much like they do now, no respect! The 49ers were not the popular team like the Redneck cowboys they weren't the everyday popular thing to like, they were the definition of the underdog. The 49ers as a team need to used that disrespect as a motivation and kick some ass and take some names and show america who the Americas real team is, and what the 49ers were, and will be forever! The 49ers need to take this offf season and set a goal much like the 49ers of the past and put in their minds that losing is unexceptable and winning is everything! I think Sing will bring this toi the team and I hope we shock the world. I live in houston, Texas and I hate it, because this is Cowboy and Texan fucking country, and also this city and the people here suck, but next year we are playing the texans and I am bringing my son to that game, the first game the 49ers have played in Houston since the early to- mid nineties. I hope the 49ers will kick some ass and show houston what 49er football is all about, that will make my year, my day and be a good memory for my son and I, I hope we kick some Ass, i will be wearing my Ronnie Lott Jersey and my son his, because Ronnie represented winning!

  • Mike in MD

    Ryan – I just took a quick look at that website I listed first. Their info is not all that clear. Try this one at the webzone.

    http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/thread.php?num=98000

    Looks like our 2009 cap room is around $30 million.

  • Desert9er

    Mountain9er… LOL. I don’t think you understood what I wrote. Maybe you should read it again.

    Dunno why I even bother. 90% are knuckleheads who can’t spell or use any form of logic. It’s getting less and less worth it to stay and read informed opinions from the 10% who can properly express an opinion like James and Pundit. Look at this thread. SAD.

  • Texas9er

    Underdog I can see why you don’t like Houston, It is a real shit hole but if it wasn’t for Houston Mike Singletary wouldn’t be here. Its the town were he was born. Other than that it does suck

  • Underdog

    Tell me about it Texas, it sucked growing up here and I want to get the fuck out, but I can’t. The 49ers are non existent down here and houston is not San Francisco, my good friend moved to San Fracisco 5 years ago, and can’t stand to come back to Houston when visiting family, and he told me the people here are too uptight and stuck-up, and I agree 100%. But ya, Mike was born here and their are some other important figures from here, and when they leave they never look back, its a shit town and its ugly ! I look forward in tailgating at Reliant stadium, a little, and being one of the only 49er fans their. I’ll just visualize I am at Candelestick having fun, that was the best tailgate I have ever experienced, the people are cool as shit in San Francisco, and they are laidback. and they know how to have some fun, and the food and drink is good! Here in houston you sweat your balls off in the humid heat and see a Redneck for every square. Its Hell Texas49er!

  • Underdog

    square mile that is!

  • joe gomez

    Michael Vick rumors keep twirling around here in the Bay. Who would you pick out of these four? Hill/JTO/Smith/Vick

    Hate to say it but Vick is the better man.

  • Texas9er

    Underdog there are more 49er fans in Texas than you think. I went to the 49ers -Cowboys game this past season and I figured that I would be the only one but it was about 1/4 49er fans. The Texans haven't been a team long enough for fan following. You will be suprised how many 49er fans there are in Texas. And about the heat, I grew up in Waco Texas and It gets hot as fuck there and about the same humidity there. 2a days in highschool and at Baylor practise sucked dick. I wish I lived in a cool climate like san francisco. I live in North Carolina now and its not bad. It gets hot in the summertime but not like Texas. Enjoy the game this year, If I was still living in Texas I would go but know I have to wait until they play the Panthers again.

  • Mike in MD

    West – did you watch the Senior Bowl? After seeing Harrell play in that game he's totally OFF my wish list. His arm may be even weaker than Hill's. He looked horrible. He couldn't even get any decent zip in his red zone passes which were about 12-14 yards downfield in that tighter coverage. I don't think he threw intermediate or long in that game once. It was like he was playing safe not to expose himself to the scouts. He might be "accurate" but a lot of that I heard was due to completing a lot of short passes & he really mastered that Leach system at Tech. We already have Sean Hill who's a solid backup QB & good stop gap for now. We don't need another one.

    The guy that looked good to me but I don't know much about him & he's rated low was Cullen Harper. He's not surrounded by much talent & he's around a 4th rounder. Thing is, is this Raye & Johnson (QB Coach) going to be good at developing QB's? I guess we'll find out. And QB's who have big guns but aren't accurate are almost useless. You look at a guy like Rhett Bomar….if he wasn't accurate in college unless he's got something in his mechanics that a good coach can catch & correct, what's gonna make him change to BE AN ACCURATE QB? If they weren't accurate in college I would stay away. Pat White caught my eye as a possible 3rd-4th rounder.

    I wanted to pass on a QB this 1st round (and for the most part still do) but then daaamn…Sanchez had to announce he was coming out. That sucks for 2 reasons. One – I really like this kid. He has great intangibles…hard worker & is a very good leader that the players follow unlike Alex Smith. Prototypical size, smart, is tough, has good accuracy, a live arm, good mobility & he's a football player. He has the LOOK of a QB vs say McCoy who looks like he's 12 (sorry West about your boy…but he's a baller.) So I'm not against us drafting this kid & I know it's a risk. Two – If he came out next year he would add to the only 1 YEAR experience he has. This would have given us that extra year to scout him or for him to further PROVE he belongs as an elite prospect. Then he would have been a bit more NFL ready having more experience.

    Probably still best to stay away from a 1st Rd QB this year but I just have a good feeling about this guy. Next year I predict we'll be in around the same draft spot, hopefully lower which says we'll have a good year. That takes us out of the position for elite QB's for next year. Bradford for one + a couple others.

  • Rob

    Actually, Gomez, I would pick Hill out of that list. I don’t know why he doesn’t get any respect. Hill is a poor man’s Ben Rothlisburger. He doesn’t usually put up big numbers, but he manages the games and figures out how to succeed. I guarantee you that if Hill had the kind of talent around him that Rothlisberger has, he would be just as successful.

    If the 49ers get Vick, I may have to finally abandon hope for this franchise. But, come on. Singletary kicked Davis out of a game for committing a stupid penalty. You really think he will go for having Vick on our team? Besides, Vick has been in jail and out of football for a while. If he ever comes back to the NFL(and that’s a big if), he will be out of shape and he won’t be as good of a QB this time around. Trying to get Vick would be a waste of time and money.

  • joe gomez

    Rob totally disagree. Hill is a good game manager, but not even close to Big Bens talent. Ben has a cannon for an arm, can escape in the pocket like Houdini and is deadly accurate. You put Hill in there with the same players and you will see the drop off guaranteed. As far as talent Vick is over Hill too. He’s a journeyman at best not a bonafide starter. I like him but everyone knows he’s not the answer. Including Sing or he would have named him the starter but he didn’t.

  • West

    Joe Gomez, I would have to agree. Hill is a good game manager. But teams are not scared of Hill… Vick can take over a game..I still dont see Vick coming to us but “Leftwitch” is a free agent an should be starting somewhere!

  • Rob

    I don’t necessarily think that Hill is just as good as Rothlisberger. If I was given the choice between the two, I would pick Rothlisberger in a heartbeat. But, that is mostly because he has been proven already. I think that Hill is still untested enough that people (including Singletary) hesitate to say he is the answer. And, I would stop short of saying he is the long term answer, too. But, the fact is that none of Hill’s numbers are impressive except for his win/loss percentage. That is very impressive. Especially considering the state of the rest of our team.

    I can’t believe there are actually proponents of getting Vick. Do you know how bad we would look to the rest of the league? And, while Vick has some natural talent, he never really developed into a complete QB. And, I just think he would be too out of shape by now to really compete at a high level. I mean, his calling card was his athleticism and speed. Those are exactly the attributes that would take a hit from his time away from football.

    I would be willing to consider someone like Leftwich. But,personally, I’m rooting for us to get Garcia back. But, I think the best long term solution is to draft a QB high in the draft. If that means taking one at no. 10, so be it. Then, someone like Hill would be a perfect placeholder until the rookie is ready to play. But, bringing in someone like Garcia or Leftwich to be a backup (or maybe compete for a chance to start) would be fine. But, Vick? No, just don’t go there.

  • West

    Rob,… I really hope we dont take a QB at 10…. I’m hoping Sing brings in a Leftwich, Garcia in Free Agency an draft either Nate Davis, Ball State…Curtis Painter, Purdue…or a Graham Harrell, Texas Tech… in a later rounds, giving them a chance to learn the system for a year or so……

  • joe gomez

    Oh he’ll no, no more unproven rookie high draft QB’s please. Besides there isn’t one even worth considering until the 2010 draft. They should do something about these kids getting those ridiculous guaranteed $$$ before they even take meaningful snap. Total bullshit. Have no problem with Leftwich or any other “proven” QB. I don’t think Vick is so old that he wouldn’t be able to get back to playing shape. He’s still considered young and besides he didn’t serve a
    Carruth type sentence, he’s serving a dog abuse sentence. Either way you spin it, Hill isn’t the answer.

  • Niner_Dude

    Let me start this by saying the 9ers need corners…bad…in order to become NFC West champs we must stop the big time WR in the division…move Nate C. to FS…let him roam…read…react…make the big hit like he seems to always enjoy…then go after a big time corner from this years draft…(CB)Malcolm Jenkins…if he’s not there…there is no way we should pass up (OLB) Everette Brown (The Beast)…but all in all 9ers need a corner…I have (CB)Sean Smith (Utah) listed as my #2 corner in this years draft…9ers should go after him as well…he will prove to be a pro bowl corner with his great hands and leaping ability (clearing throat) somebody guard Fitzgerald please…also I think (QB)Pat White would be a great #2 pick and will prove to be the biggest draft steal of 2009 for who ever gets him…anyway…

    Jimmy Raye (scratching head) I don’t know about this one guys…I guess we’ll just have to wait and see…I’ve never heard of him…so I can’t really comment on him…but I know the 9ers needed to get some fresh minds in the organization…

  • West

    Mike n MD….I agree when it comes to Harrell, Senior Bowl he looked off, but with some time to learn i think could make a big difference with who ever we draft…. I dont know much about Harper, will look into him or if you have anything on him send it our way…. I really like Nate Davis an Curtis Painter…. Nate probable a 2nd or 3rd round pick, Painter will go later….

    McCoy does look 12…lol

  • AXEGRINDER

    Texas9er, it’s good to know the Niners fans infiltrate Texas Stadium like the Cowboy fans pollute Candlestick…..good knowledge. Fuck the Cowboys and their fucking fair weather fans…

  • West

    Mike n MD….nice call on Pat White, i over looked him

  • Mike in NJ

    OK here is a thought with the draft and I know some are going to be like No flat out. But its a thought. Knowshon Moreno RB from georgia. Kid has great instincts and has a passion for the game. I believe is going to be a great RB in the league.and durability is not an issue with this kid he’d play with a broken leg if they would let him. He’s tough as hell. Now I know we have Gore but if we want to pound the rock we are going to need 2 good backs for that who can take the pounding. Look what carolina did they took williams in first 2 years ago then cut foster last year and drafted stewart and they had one of the best rushing attacks in the league..
    I know not smart and we have a lot of other holes but just throwin it out there to maybe look at us drafting a guy like that or like a Shonn Greene from Iowa in 2/3rd round.
    Just a thought anyway.. so I know people will tear apart thoughts on that but 2 back system is way to go today especially if gonna pound the rock. and we all know gore while great doesnt have a good history of staying healthy. so why not have a top back to back him up and share the wealth.

  • Mike in MD

    West – I like Nate in the 3rd, not sure about the 2nd Rd. When I researched him every time they played against legit competition he struggled. His stats dropped bigtime. Now I don’t know if that’s because of his OLine, lack of team talent (WR’s & lack of running game to take pressure off), the opposing teams DLine/rushers/corners/safeties that much better or if it’s HIM not able to handle the pressure. Maybe somebody here who’s been following Ball State can fill us in. The only other knock on him is he’s listed as 6 foot tall so he’s challenged looking over the OLine. But I would definitely take a chance on him in the 3rd Rd.

    Mike in NJ – your not off the mark on Moreno. Dudes a beast. And your right we need at least a 2-back set up. I’d throw a 3rd in there with a Sproles like scat back if we could get one. I’ve seen Moreno as our pick in a couple mocks. Gore won’t be happy if this happened as Moreno is also a #1 back. But if we’re going to be a dominant running team (when we WANT & NEED TO) Gore will have to swallow his pride & accept the 2-3 stud backs. I’ve heard a little on Shonn Greene….just a straight ahead physical runner with no jukes/moves. Kind of a NYG’s Jacobs type. Heard he was a beast too.

    My revised 1st Rd picks – Raji, Oher, Maualuga, Everett Brown, Malcolm Jenkins (can play CB or FS…physical CB also solid at open field tackling like Nate), Jeremy Maclin (bigger than Harvin with the same breakaway home run speed that Crabtree DOESN’T have, is more of a natural WR vs Harvin, & is also a return specialist), Mark Sanchez. (I don’t know much about Orapko) Got to finish my 2nd, 3rd, & 4th round picks next.

    Here’s a sweet Draft value chart on the NFP if anybody wants to check it out.

    LINK: http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/2009/01/2009-nfl-draft-value-chart/

  • West

    Mike in NJ…well said, I do believe Sing will be looking to draft a RB or bringing up Clayton…. Sing wants to pound the ball and will need another strong back!! Also look for FB Moran Norris to come back or Raye guy Tony Richardson….

  • Mike in MD

    Totally agree West on the FB’s. Got to get rid of Keasey. I’m thinking stop gap with the guys you mentioned for a year, maybe 2 if it’s Norris. Isn’t Richardson an older guy? He’s probably got 1 good year left in the tank. If we hit on a lot of our picks next year we should be able to draft a stud FB in 2010 Draft. You never know with 2 comp picks this year we might draft him this year. Can’t wait for Free Agency at the end of the month. We’ll know the real story/Draft strategy after that.

  • http://niners Medford

    Please I hope we dont bring Jeff Garcia back here!!! What would that prove? I wouldnt mind Vick as r QB. The problem with Hill is that he has no arm and that’s why he isnt the #1 QB right now.

  • Rob

    Honestly, I’m not even sure why the Vick rumors persist. The only reason that theory came about was because the 49ers were interviewing OC candidates that had worked with Vick before. To my knowledge, Raye never worked with Vick. So, I just don’t see that happening.

    I don’t really think Garcia would be any better or worse of an option than Hill. I just was a fan of his when he was with San Fran, and think it would be cool to have him back.

    I honestly don’t think there are any long term answers at QB in free agency or trade. There are some guys we could go after and see if they work, like Leftwich, Anderson, Cassel, or McNabb. But, in my opinion, those guys won’t give us any better of a chance than Hill would. But, I think we ultimately need to go back to the draft. I don’t follow college football too much, so I don’t know if there are any QBs worth a no. 10 pick out there. I’m just saying I hope they get a QB worthy of starting someday, regardless of where we take him. Because the draft is pretty much the only way I can see us getting a long term solution at QB. And, for the short term, Hill is as good of an option as any, I think.

  • erock85

    Nice write up Niner_Dude. I agree with you 100%… Everette Brown would be a great addition, but we do need some CB help too. I also like Jenkins, and have since checked out your #2 S. Smith from Utah… good call on him. Check out CB Vontae Davis from Illinois too… like him a lot as well.
    As for QB White… I had forgot about him, but yeah… he’d be a nice 2nd pick. If we got a great defender in the 1st and then White in the 2nd, we’d be off to a good start.
    Is Chase Daniels in this draft? Haven’t heard much about him, but he’d be a decent later-round pick as well.

  • Forensics 187

    So whats the deal with Foster? Are we not bringing him back? I’m sure he probably wants to start somewhere but if we can retain him I think he paired well with Gore.

  • Underdog

    I agree texas 49er I think Hill can get us to the playoffs too, he just needs to play a solid year and have the right leadership and discipline behind him, I think Martz was a little hot headed from what I understand and it rub some of the players the wrong way discipline is good but I think it is the way you address it. Ya, Texas49er I think the last game that was played here was when we were the Oilers and I can't remember that far back even though I am old enough too. Iremember going to a game with my dad at the astrodome and the oilers were up and Montana came back and kickedsome ass, I was one excited kid but the fans around me were all wearing their love ya blue tshirts, they weren't too happy. Ya, I here theirs a lot of 49er fans here but it does'nt seem like it here in Houston, I never see any 49er jerseys or anything just the same old shit like the packers orthe fucking redneck Cowboys, I can't stan to see T.O.'s jersey in shops down here, because I remember being a big supporer of him when he was with us and he insulted the star, all the rednecks down here were pissed, none down here knew who T.O. was before that awesome incident. Everyone down here doesn't relaize that traitor was conceived and drafted by us, they all think he came out of nowhere, your right AXgrinder the Cowboys fans don't know shit, fucking scumbags,I hate em. Anyhow, Texas 49er thanks man I look forward to the game my son is young and that boy love's the 49ers, I get a kick out of it, makes me proud. Hey bro are the panthers playing the 49ers this year, I am not sure whn we are playing them I do not have the official schedule till april I think. I am looking forward to the game. At a lot of games do the players allow you to take picture with them and your kids before games, at warm ups, I guess it depends on the players

  • http://www.hotmail.com Ryan the 1st

    Joe Gomez, I agree that Hill might not be the LONG TERM answer, but I do think that with Hill we can be a playoff team. The problem is that A) NO FREE AGENT QB is going to take us any further than Hill (do you think Cassel will do what he did without Moss and Welker?). Stick with Hill…for now, but the 10th pick should NOT be wasted on a QB. I hope the Lions and Chiefs grab Stafford and Sanchez IMMEDIATELY so the decision isn’t even available. The niners need to address the issues they have put off forever….they need to get a TRUE BLUE number one receiver ( you won’t get that out of the draft IMHO unless you get Crabtree), get the O line and D line solid. Malcolm Jenkins is a draft pick that I would embrace with open arms…I really hope we are lucky enough to land him. You combine that with Otogwe and I think we might FINALLY be able to shut down the AZ passing attack. The niners will come back, but they have to be smart about their moves. This is the wrong year to find a franchise QB.

  • Texas9er

    Rt/Lt or OLB should be our main concern in the first round on the draft. I believe that Shawn Hill can get use to the playoffs. I believe we would have gotten there this past year if he would have played the whole year. The Titans got there with Kerry Collins. I would put Hill in the same class as him. If the 49ers pick up a solid tackle like jason Smith we could move Joe Staley back to right tackle and let Jason Smith be the left leave staley at left and put Jason Smith at right. Eather way would be nice. If Jason Smith isn’t available than I would like to see them go after Everette Brown or Brian Orakpo. Either of these three would be great for the firts round. I would go with Nate davis QB from Ball State in the 2nd round. I think he might be the steal of the draft. He is moble, good arm strength and he is accerate. I trust that Singletary will make the right decision. Qb in the first round shouldn’t be an option.

  • Texas9er

    Underdog, the 49ers won’t be playing the panthers anytime soon. They played them last year not this past season but the one before. I thought the same thing before I saw the 49ers play Dallas. I never saw anybody with any 49er gear but on the way to the game walking in the parking lot I couldn’t believe my eyes there was 49ers shit everywhere. They wouldn’t let people into the stadium until 10am but outside I saw 49er fans everywhere. This one guy had on a Joe Montana jersey and he was carrying a huge 49ers flag around. It pissed alot of Cowboy fans off. Mel Renfo of the Cowboys was signing autographes and I stood in line for 30 minutes just to ask him if he could sign Steve Young on my hat and he got pissed and they asked me to leave the line. Have blast at the game I know I did. Even though the 49ers lost I still had a great time.

  • erock85

    That’s awesome to read Texas9er… thanks.

  • Bobby Boucher

    Well said underass! That texas cornholer is a stupid little fuckhole. I bet he sodomizes cattle.

  • West

    Gore an V.D should SHINE

    RUNNING BACKS UNDER RAYE

    2,105 – Eric Dickerson, 1984 Rams

    1,808 – Eric Dickerson, 1983 Rams

    1,432 – Stephen Davis, 2001 Redskins

    1,300 – James Wilder, 1985 Buccaneers

    1,025 – Lamont Jordan, 2005 Raiders

    808 – John Stephens, 1990 Patriots

    704 – James Wilder, 1986 Buccaneers (12 starts)

    697 – Tony Richardson (FB), 2000 Chiefs

    688 – Robert Delpino, 1991 Rams

    627 – Donnell Bennett, 1999 Chiefs

    527 – Donnell Bennett, 1998 Chiefs (10 starts)

    425 – Amos Zereoue, 2004 Raiders (six starts)

    PASSING TOTALS UNDER RAYE

    4,169 – Elvis Grbac, 2000 Chiefs

    3,759 – Kerry Collins 2005 Raiders

    3,495 – Kerry Collins 2004 Raiders (13 starts)

    3,438 – Jim Everett, 1991 Rams

    3,389 – Elvis Grbac, 1999 Chiefs

    3,276 – Vince Ferragamo 1983 Rams

    3,208 – M. Wilson (6 starts), T. Hodson (6), S. Grogan (4), 1990 Patriots

    2,488 — Steve DeBerg, 1985 Buccaneers (11 starts)

    2,305 – Rich Gannon, 1998 Chiefs (10 starts)

    2,282 – Steve Young, 1986 Buccaneers (14 starts)

    2,021 – Jeff Kemp, 1984 Rams (13 starts)

    WIDE RECEIVERS UNDER RAYE

    1,391 – Derrick Alexander, 2000 Chiefs

    1,052 – Henry Ellard, 1991 Rams

    1,005 – Randy Moss, 2005 Raiders

    998 – Joey Porter, 2004 Raiders

    992 – Derrick Alexander, 1998 Chiefs

    856 – Irving Fryar, 1990 Patriots

    832 – Derrick Alexander, 1999 Chiefs

    803 – Kevin House, 1985 Rams

    741 – Rod Gardner, 2001 Redskins

    640 – Gerald Carter, 1986 Buccaneers

    622 – Henry Ellard, 1984 Rams

    556 – George Farmer, 1983 Rams

    TIGHT ENDS UNDER RAYE

    1,203 – Tony Gonzalez, 2000 Chiefs

    849 – Tony Gonzalez, 1999 Chiefs

    673 – Jimmy Giles, 1985 Buccaneers

    657 – Mike Barber, 1983 Rams

    621 – Tony Gonzalez, 1998 Chiefs

    564 – Calvin Magee, 1986 Buccaneers

    455 – Marv Cook, 1990 Patriots

    410 – Jim Price, 1991 Rams

    313 – Doug Jolley, 2004 Raiders (13 starts)

    303 – Courtney Anderson, 2005 Raiders (13 starts)

    300 – David Hill, 1984 Rams

    128 – Walter Rasby, 2001 Redskins (11 starts)

  • BIlly

    Texas9er sorry you have to tolerate some idiots that make such absurd comments. Its sad to know we have SOME 49er fans that just make stupid statements to try to stir up arguments.

    So, I like the idea of picking up Jordan Gross to solidify the O-Line, as for the 1st pick I would love Crabtree he'd be our #1 receiver, DE/OLB 2nd, 3rd on an RB, and a 4th on a QB, also Atogwe for Safety to kick out Roman

  • Bobby Boucher

    Imagine that, two hillbillies that congratulate each other on their fabulous comments and neither one can spell. Wait, maybe it’s the same shithead hillbilly who has been ruining this site forever talking to himself. Fuck off and die Texas douchebag. DRAFT EVERETTE BROWN!!!!!!!!!

  • underass

    Great comment Bobby I hate ass clowns from Texas too. I hope he does die because he’s a stupid little fuck hole.

  • crackrock22

    That’s awesome to read Bobby…thanks.

  • Redneck9er

    What is this I hear about texas people, man. Have you ever been to texas in the last 30 years. Another point, if you love Cali so much why are you all trying to burn it down all the time. Also why have there been so many from Cali moving to texas. I guess people like you are running them out of town with your douchebag attitude.

  • Bobby Boucher

    Wasn’t anything against Texas really, just the jerkoff on this site who is from there, and changes his name alot. Is that you sillyass?

  • Texas9er

    If I change mt name all the time why doesn’t my picture follow. I have never used another name on here. I feel bad that you feel that way about me. I have been to California and its not so great. Yeah Texas may not be the best place in the world because of the Dallas Cowboys but Im in the same boat as you I hate the Cowboys. Im sorry for the comments I made and Im trying right now not to say anything negative because I said I was threw. I feel bad that you feel that way against me and if I ever said anything to piss you off then Im sorry but don’t go saying that you want me to die because of some comments I left on here. We are all 49ers fans and believe it or not there are 49ers fans in Texas

  • Texas9er

    To all the people on here I would like to ask what is your problem with me. Sorry I grew up in Texas. There isn’t anything I can Do about that. I hate the Cowboys as much as anyone on here. Why can’t we talk football instead of talking shit to each other.

  • West

    BIlly, I hope Sing agree's…..We need to grab Atogwe at the start of F.A….

  • Forensics 187

    I don't know about Ware or Atogwe, there seems to be a fairly large need for a big time WR. Also, I’m not hating the fact that Albert Hansworth is a possible free agent.

  • joe gomez

    Why is it that every fucking year it seems like weve got holes in almost every possible position except maybe LB? How long have we been searching for WR's and Linemen? QB? On and on and on. This shit is ridiculous. All this shit points to Scott "im a dumbfuck/mclueless" McCloughan and ownership. Meaning im going to pray hard that these dumbfucks get their heads out their asses or leave town. Either one is fine by me.

  • Forensics 187

    I hear you Joe, but it’s not like McCloughan isn't trying to fill holes. You really can't fault him for A. Smith and Bryant Johnson was Steve Breston before Steve Breston (ask the Cards how he is filling in as the third guy) and then Johnson sucked ass for us. Darrel Jackson was another piece of work, he also drafted Hill (he has something for the future) and Morgan. Staley is a great draft pick. Please don’t think that I am a McCloughan fan or anything, but he is the reason that we have been blessed with Pat Willis. If McCloughan can hit on a couple more players like that we could be a contender.

  • West

    Texas9er …. Yea i can see them going Rt/Lt or OLB with our 1st pick… E. Brown OLB if he is there” big if” A. Smith could be moved to RT.. It’s hard to find a good LT an we have one in Staley, ” no need to change it” …. I also wouldn’t mind if we picked up DT B.J. Raji from Boston College or WR Jeremy Maclin, Missouri… “My opion i like Maclin over Crabtree”

  • West

    McCloughan’s talk on our cap situation

    Q: Scot, Thank you for taking time to answer all of our questions. I was wondering how much room in the salary cap does the team have to work with this year? There looks to be a few free agents that are about to hit the market who would have an immediate impact. I think that the team that you have built these past few years is poised to take it to the next level! It’s time for the 49ers to re-emerge as one of the top teams of the league. -Jerome Martinez, Santa Fe, New Mexico

    A: When it’s all said and done, we’ll be in the top 10 in the NFL for sure. We’ll have room and we’ll be one of the teams with the most room. We have enough room to possibly be aggressive and there’s enough room to take care of our own guys. Whatever we want to do, we’re going to do it. We have some cap room where we can improve our roster because of the room we have. We’re in very good shape.

  • West

    Niner_Dude, D. Ware has one year remaining on his rookie contract, the Cowboys would likely have their only First Team All-Pro re-signed before the 2009 season begins…… And we definitely need a player like Rams Oshiomogho Atogwe (FS) to unseat Roman.

    As for a free agent that Dallas most likely let walk is Tank Johnson (DT)

  • West

    Yea Medford, I'm glad Haley took the Chiefs job…. 9ers turn to claim the West!!!

  • Niner_Dude

    erock85…thanks dude…it’s good to know someone agrees on here…too much talk about shullbit…and not enough about our 9ers…
    9ers should be really agressive in this years free agencey…and NO!!! 9ers shouldn’t go after Atogwe without going after Demarcus Ware first…if Dallas dont sign’em…9ers should…nothing else matters if Ware is there…

  • Texas9er

    From what I heard on nfl network the Cowboys may not have the cap space to sign him. If they get rid of T.O. this offseason they would have to play T.O. 14mil. Demarcus Ware won’t be a Cowboy if that happens. The Cowboys are going to have to cut lose of some players just to make room to franchise him if they wanted to. But if they have the uncapped year like they have been talking about they won’t have any problem signing him

  • Medford

    I agree with you West about Atogwe he would be a big steal for us if we could take him from the Rams. Wat’s wrong with the Card’s lettting there D cordinator go? He got them to the Super Bowl!! What do they want??

  • http://www.hotmail.com Ryan the 1st

    I am with Medford and above all things we NEED to get Otogwe….Housh (as you all know) is atop my free agency Christmas list, but I feel like we are going to have to get into a bidding war to get him….probably have to give him Plaxico money. He is the ONLY BIG NAME in the receiver market this year that we could DEPEND on to be a number one. Plus, Raye being the OC and his RUN, RUN, RUN approach to the game might steer Housh away. Otogwe is a need. We need to start figuring out what is going to be done with Mr. Glass. I think our first pick is going to be a right tackle or an OLB/DE as well, but if Malcolm Jenkins or Maclin fall to us that could change.

  • http://www.hotmail.com Ryan the 1st

    Barrows answers a lot of fans questions in this link…

    http://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/49ers/archiv

  • GeoMak

    Cardinal Facts (For What It's Worth).

    Todd Haley: The Cards really won't miss a beat there (although he's a real good coach) as Whisenhunt will go back to calling plays in 2009.

    Their DC being fired. When Whisenhunt was hired in 2007 management "nicely" suggested to Whisenhunt that he keep Pendergast, the lone holdover from the Dennis Green era.. He could have fired him and brought his own guy in, but he elected to keep him. (Pendergast's family, BTW, happened to own the land under which the Cards new stadium sits).

    Now, two years later, Whisenhunt wants to bring his own guy in. Their defense was inconsistent last year. Two things helped out in the end for them. 1). Rookie Dominick Rogers-Cromartie was put into the starting line-up midseason and 2.)The players on defense got sick of being criticized before the playoffs began and really played their rear ends off. Same players, MUCH better effort in the playoffs. It's hard to tell if they should have been congratulated for how well they played in the playoffs or criticized for how inconsistently they played in the regular season.

    Bryant Johnson – Steve Breaston. Johnson's a classic underachiever. He was drafted in the 1st round the same year that Boldin was drafted in the 2nd round. After Johnson left for SF, Breaston wanted Johnson's old job so badly that, in his own words, he worked "harder that offseason than he had ever worked in his entire life." Hard work really does pay off. Imagine that!

    ALmost every year, almost EVERYBODY picks the exact same teams that finished first in their division to do it again the next year . . . and more often than not, it doesn't happen that way. The Niners have an EXCELLENT chance of winning the West next year.

  • joe gomez

    Winning the West? That would take unseating a team that was several blown calls away from being Super Bowl Champions, that is a tall order. We still don't have a legit QB, they have a future hall of famer. We still don't have a legit starting WR, they have the reincarnation of Jerry Rice. Gore and Willis are about the only players that are consistent and only one of them made the Pro Bowl. To unseat the Cards, will not take a miracle, but were gonna hit it big in FA's and the draft. McClueless gets about less than half his picks and signings right. I don't feel comfortable with this moron but I do hope he gets lucky and gets it right.

  • GeoMak

    Joe Gomez:

    What you kind of fail to realize it that in the NFL, things are always in a state of flux. I believe, in the fast four-five years, the LAST place team in the NFC South went on the become the FIRST place team the next year. This year that formula failed in 2008 because, the “last” place Falcons only made it to second place, this year.

    Still, do you think ANYBODY was predicting those last place teams to win the division the following year? I sure don’t.

    As I live in Phoenix, I know ALL about that team. In 1998, the Cards won their first playoff game in ages, when they went into Dallas and killed the Cowboys (only to lose the following week in Minnesota). Still, things were looking up for the woeful Cards.

    And then, management BLEW it. They let three of their best players walk away in Free Agency (Lomas Brown, Larry Centers and Jamir Miller). They sucked for years after that(again).

    Do the Cards have better receivers and a better QB that the Niners. Sure they do. Still, those same “better receivers and QB” were one play away from losing to those same Niners last year in Arizona.

    Things change from year-to-year. Coaches leave (like Todd Haley). Players leave (like possibly Anquan Boldin). Sometimes teams lose their hunger after a great year. Sometimes those same teams don’t play as well when they’re the “hunted” as opposed to the “hunters.”

    Every year is a NEW year. NOTHING carries over from the previous year.

    Need proof? Here goes. The 2007 1-15 Dolphins and the team of the decade N.E. Patriots going into 2008. Now seriously Joe, how many people had the 2008 Dolphins finishing with the EXACT same record as the 2008 Pats. Answer: NOBODY. NOBODY!

    Games aren’t won on paper, they’re won on the field. Saying who’s got the better QB and receivers means ALMOST NOTHING in the NFL.

  • Niner_Fan

    Coordinators are overrated. Martz is a Super Bowl winning coach and where did he get us? Norv Turner is definately one of the most experienced coach/coordinators in the league with 30 years plus in college and pro football, where did he get us? Mike McCarthy before him, 4-12 season. It’s obviously about personnel. The Niners need to attack free agency hard. Enough putting all our eggs in the “Draft basket” drafting decent college players in the 1st round. (Except Willis). Alex Smith needs to GO. Shaun Hill should stay and compete for his starting job, not with O’Sullivan but “O’Vick” or “O’Derek Anderson (Via Trade)”. Please Niners don’t draft a QB with the 10th overall pick. We need a big play reciever if available if not we need a OL. I honestly think we are one big arm and one down field threat way from competing deep on the playoffs.

  • joe gomez

    As far as the Dolphins.. two words GeoMak… Bill Parcells. That is what we are lacking, proven NFL leaders managing the team. We were supposed to hire somebody but it never happened. Plus, they upgraded their QB position and have a good run game and solid defense which made them improve. They are still a few players away from contending in the playoffs though.

  • GeoMak

    joe gomez:

    You are giving me the "reasons" why. I KNOW those. I'm just telling you that things can change quickly in the NFL, in this, the era of Free Agency and the Salary Cap, that's all.

    BTW: You make fundamental mistakes in fact and logic. Atlanta didn't sign a "legit NFL starter" in Ryan. They signed a rookie from BC. The fact is, he may have had the best rookie season as a QB in the NFL since Dan Marino. Of course, nobody KNEW that BEFORE the draft, which is why the draft is such a crapshoot, ESPECIALLY when it comes to QB's. Also, if Parcell (who I love) is SO smart then, why did HE pass on the next Dan Marino?

    The Dolphins: They "upgraded their QB position." You're right. Of course it took Brett Favre to make that happen. That's right. They should thank old Brett! Think of it. If Mike McCarthy and Ted Thompson hadn't gotten sick and tired of Breet Favre in GB, they might not have let him go to NY, which then, in turn, allowed NY to cut Chad loose, allowing his original coach (Parcells) to just pick him up for the taking in Miami. Who knows how things might have turned out in Miami this past year if Chad wasn't "suddenly free."

    That's my WHOLE point.

    Step 1 toward winning in the NFL.There are Two kinds of coaches in the NFL: Those that can push and prod their players and get the very best out of them and those that can't. After years of coaches that can't (Mooch, Erickson and Nolan) the Niners FINALLY have a coach that can in MS.

    Step 2, is the players. In the NFL there's an old saying "If you don't have the horse's, you can't win the race." Ken Whisenhunt Sure is a better coach after INHERITING guys like Warner, Fitzgerald and Boldin. If Ken Whisenhunt is SO smart then why'd he pass on Adrian Peterson in 2007???

    The players they bring in, going forward, will be key to how much the 49ers improve.

    This is the FIRST year of the Singletary/McCloughan era. Give them a chance to make their mark.

    Take a guy like Vernon Davis. There's no doubt, in my mind, that if Singletary had been his HC since the day he was drafted, that VD would be a much better player than he is right now. That said, going forward, with MS as his HC, you WILL see a dramatic improvement in his game. Why. It goes back to step 1 above.

    You're basic premise was that it would be extremely difficult to unseat a team that was a few plays away from winning the SB.

    If the Niners "get a little better" and the Cards "get a little worse" there will be a new division leader next year. That's ALL I was basically saying!

  • GeoMak

    joe gomez:

    You (unknowingly) made my point for me: Look at Miami last year. Whoever thought that the Brett Favre saga, in last years offseason, would DIRECTLY affect the Dolphins? Not me. And not you. And not anybody else in North America, that's for sure. And yet it had a MAJOR impact, as I outlined above (Favre goes to NY, NY cuts Chad and Parcells happily picks him up for his Dolphins . . . thank you NY).

    And then this: Parcells, one of the SMARTEST men in the league, bypasses mavbe the greatest rookie QB (Matt Ryan) in the past quarter century to take an OT from Michigan. Think Parcells would like to have that pick over again? I sure do!

  • GeoMak

    joe gomez:

    This is how smart the Cardinals are (LOL). I know (I live there)!

    This is a team that passed on Brian Urlacher to draft Thomas Jones in 2000. Because they had NO O-Line and crappy coaches, Jones did NOTHING in AZ. He eventually went to TB and then to the Bears, where he made the Pro-Bowl. The Bears "essentially" got Urlacher AND Jones from that draft.

    In 2003 the Cards had the 10th pick in the draft and could have had local product Terrell Suggs, who played at ASU. Suggs actually WANTED to play for the Cards, if you can believe that! No brainer, right? Not for the Cards. They (stupidly) traded down with Baltimore to draft TWO guys (Bryant Johnson and Calvin Pace), both of whom aren't with the Cards anymore. Johnson is a classic underachiever (as Niner fans now know) and Pace did nothing for years. Finally, they converted him from the D-Line to LB, where he started to play well, and the LEFT FOR NY in free agency. They had a legitimate Pro-Bowl pass rusher in their backyard, who WANTED to play for them, and they passed!

    Denny Green was a mediocre HC with the Cards but drafted very well. His 2004 draft brought in FOUR starters: Larry Fitzgerald on offense and Dansby, Dockett and Smith on defense. After he was fired at the end of 2006, they went back to crappy drafting.

    In 2007, when they had the 5th pick in the draft they got lucky as Adrian Peterson fell to them at number 5. He was the consensus "best player available" at that pick. So what did GM Rod Graves do? Instead of happily scooping up Peterson he "reached" to draft OT Levi Brown (who was projected to go from 10-15). Brown's a good pick . . . for maybe a LATE first rounder or a second rounder. Peterson is considered not only the best RB in the league, but by some as the best PLAYER in the league.

    The ONLY reason, the ONLY reason, the Cards have some good players on their team is this: They really don't draft very well (at all). But, when you are almost ALWAYS drafting in the top 10, year after year after year, sooner or later you're going to have some good players (even when you STUPIDLY pass on guys like Suggs and Peterson). It almost can't be helped!

    Rod Graves is their GM. He's been in the front office in various capacities for YEARS. He's really not very good at drafting. Not at all!

    They have a lot of good young players not BECAUSE of their drafting skills, but almost In Spite of it! Really. You think things have been bad in SF, you should've been in Phoenix. If it wasn't for Denny Green (who also brought in Kurt Warner as a FA in 2005), they'd still be horrible. Just stating the facts.

    Try not to make it sound like the Cards are some "draft day geniuses."

    Nothing could be FURTHER from the truth!

  • joe gomez

    GeoMak, no matter how you try to analyze things it comes down to having the right players on the field. We have too many “mediocre” and not enough “playmakers” on the roster. The draft and FA signings is going to be HUGE as far as determining our progress for next year. As far as the Falcons are concerned, they signed a legit NFL starter in Ryan. We signed a legit “BUST” in Smith. All comes down to playmakers bottom line. You dont have them, you will have a long season like weve had for almost a decade now. So now we are left with hoping Scott McClueless can get lucky on some of his personnel moves or else were fucked again!

  • West

    Joe Gomez….. We brought in Bill Nayes the past three seasons he was at University of Wisconsin. The 49ers have hired Nayes Mike Holmgren’s former associate to serve Mike Singletary as special assistant to the head coach……..Nayes fills one of those administrative positions we hear little about. He was with Holmgren in Green Bay and Seattle…..Significant for Sing due to his lack of an administrative background in the NFL.

  • 9er

    GeoMak completely agree with everything except that Parcells would like to pick over again. Jake Long was pretty impressive this year and Matt Ryan also had a substancially better recieving core in ATL he MAY not have faired so well in MIA.

  • GeoMak

    9er:

    I hear what you’re saying and don’t disagree with you. Who knows, without Michael Turner (and maybe Sam Baker) maybe Ryan doesn’t do as well in his rookie year as he ended up doing.

    My point is that nobody is “God” when it comes to the draft.

    Look at the Steelers. Maybe the best organization in the SB era. And they (along with every other team) passed on local product Dan Marino. This is a kid who played both his HS and College ball in the Steelers backyard. What was their excuse?

    When Pittsburgh passed on Marino Shula called Marino’s college coach (Foge Fazio) and asked him “What the Hell is going on here?” Fazio said that he didn’t know but for Shula to take him if he was still there.

    I know about the cocaine rumors but they’s a big difference between rumors and facts. To my knowledge, it never moved from rumors to facts. Maybe I’m wrong.

    The rest, as they say, is history. Art Rooney SR. NEVER forgave his kid for bypassing Marino. The fact that they drafted a D-Lineman who was shortly thereafter paralyzed in a car crash didn’t do anything to soften the blow of that draft pick.

  • 9er

    Agreed

  • 9er

    I think gomez’z point is that with our relatively poor play and high draft picks we should have hit a little more than our players have presently performed. Not to say that they won’t improve(specific VD).

  • GeoMak

    9er

    I would not disagree with that. The Niners, a once great franchise, have been a very average team for a long time now. That kind of play is tolerable in places like Detroit, Cincinnati and Phoenix (to name a few) but NOT in a place like SF. Not with their rich history. In the bay area, the natives a restless and who can blame them.

    My problem with gomez is his “premise” that the Cards are so much superior to the Niners in the West that I have a problem with.

    I’m a longtime Bears fan (who is now following the Niners cause of Singletary). I miss the good old days (before the cap and Free Agency.

    Look at three teams from the 80’s: The 84 Niners, my 85 Bears and the 86 Giants. The beauty of those teams is that were built, year after year, layer after layer, cause players couldn’t leave. a team, back then, was REWARDED for excellent drafting and coaching. Slow and steady improvement. Each year, add a few pieces with the hopes that this was finally the year when it “all came together” Now, it’s almost (not quite, but almost) totally different.

    The 84 Niners (Montana & Lott). The 85 bears (Payton and Singletary) and the 86 Giants (Simms and LT). Can you imagine what life would have been like if Lott left the 49ers for the Eagles, Singletary for the Cowboys and Simms for the Chargers, by way of example? I sure can’t.

    It’s different now, though. In one offseason “your” team can make a few key moves and get a little better and the team in front of you can suffer a few key moves and get a little worse and . . . the gap can shrink to next to nothing.

    All I know is that if you look at any forecast for next year virtually everybody will pick most of last years division winners to repeat, and, at the end of the 2009 season you will see that at least half of those teams won’t.

  • 9er

    That’s true. Alas the double edged sword that is the cap every team has a chance but harder for teams to stay good for long.

  • 9er

    Montana & Lott like the rest of those guys were all drafted by their teams though throw in Rice. Those 3 guys arguably the best three players at their positions ever all in that decade. Rewind 10 years from now name me a player of that caliber the 49ers have drafted close to as good (Pat Willis the closest but not at the same level). If a cap would have cut one of them out the 49ers still had plenty of other talent around them to produce a consistent winner maybe not as dominant though. It all works in cycles so maybe in the next decade we’ll be good again.

  • GeoMak

    9er

    You might not like what I’m going to say but I’ll say it anyway. Montana & Rice are by-products of the genius of Bill Walsh. He drafted those guys and his system allowed their talents to flourish. Without Walsh, Joe and Jerry would still have been excellent NFL players, maybe/probably great players, but it’s doubtful that they’d be on Mt. Rushmore as they are now. I’m not taking anything away from them at all. It’s just this. Bill Walsh would have had an “easier” time finding another Montana and Rice (if those guys weren’t available to him) than Montana and Rice would’ve had finding another Bill Walsh.

    Let’s put it this way. If those guys had been drafted by the Cardinals (or Lions, for example), nobody would think all that much of them all these years later. That’s not a knock on those guys at all, it’s just (my) opinion.

    Same with Singletary. There have only been two geniuses, from an X’s and O’s standpoint, in the past quarter century. And that’s Walsh’s WCO and Ryan’s 46 defense. Period. Those two guys changed the game of football. And their players gained a lot from playing in their systems.

    Ryan affected Singletary in two ways. One, he drove him and rode him. Mike hated him early on, but credits that kind of “drill sergeant” type of coaching for making him a much better player. And then, Singletary stood front and center in the 46 defense. That scheme certainly didn’t hurt his notoriety at all. Singletary, Hampton, Dent and Marshall, as well as the other players on defense, all benefited from playing Ryan’s scheme.

    The NFL network listed the top 10 NFL draft classes. The Bears draft of 83 made that list (that’s the draft that gave them Pro-Bowl OT Jim Covert, WR Willie gault and Richard Dent, along with a few other starters for the 85 Bears).

    When you look at the Niners and Bears of that era, you see superior drafting, superior coaching and some of the highest quality players ever.

    That’s a hard act to follow.

    Two of the most successful teams in the Cap & FA era are the Patriots and Steelers. They have coaching stability (at least at the HC position) they draft very well, and when their better players want to “break the bank” and leave, they have groomed their replacements to make a smooth transition. They don’t always win it all, or even make the playoffs, but they are NEVER bad or even mediocre. They always grade out as a “B” or an “A”, never as a “C” or a “D”.

    That’s the model the Niners need to follow. Because, for all their past glory and greatness, in the Cap & FA period, they are just another average football team.

    Hiring Singletary was the 1st step. The rest remains to be seen.

  • joe gomez

    Geomak. No not every single position. What I’m saying is the important positions of QB and WR they are easily superior. Do you care to disagree with that? As far as other positions we have made some strides. I actually would give us a edge at the RB and LB positions. As a matter of fact I think our defense could have probably stopped the Steelers on that last drive. Then again, Roman is back there so maybe not.

  • GeoMak

    joe gomez:

    Mooch said something VERY interesting (and very true) during SB week: He said that the talent level, by and large, is pretty much comparable across the board . . . EXCEPT at the QB position. There (according to Mooch) about 1/3rd of the teams have elite/Pro-Bowl type QBs and the other 2/3 rds do not.

    That doesn’t mean a team without an elite QB CAN’T win it all (see 2000 Ravens). It just means that without a franchise type of QB on your team, it’s a much harder road to climb.

  • GeoMak

    joe gomez:

    I watched every Niner game after MS took over. I liked what I saw from Hill, at least for the time being. And of course, starting with the Vernon Davis incident, Singletary left no doubt as to how things were going to be run with him in charge.

    As far as the Bears/Niner playoffs go, at little perspective is in order. Buddy Ryan left in 86 and things were never the same after that for the Bears. Buddy is/was my ATF coach. I followed him (on TV from Chicago through satellite dishes) while he was in Philadelphia as HC and when he went to Phoenix in 1994 to be the HC of the Cardinals, I moved out to Phoenix myself, where I currently reside.

    While OUR mastermind (Ryan) was there competing against YOUR master mind (Walsh) things were pretty even. And in the 1984 Championship game, which you guys won 23-0, our starter (McMahon) was out. The next year, in 1985 (with McMahon) we went to SF and won 26-10. So, it was pretty even with Ryan on the team and pretty uneven without him, after Ditka brought in Vince Tobin as DC to run his vanilla, laid-back, read and react defense, the exact OPPOSITE of Ryan's pressure defense.

  • c-tree-p.o.

    Does anyone have any insight to how recovery is going for Shawntae Spencer? I know it takes awhile to get the spring back in your step from and ACL injury. I'm trying to figure out what the 2009 secondary is going to look like. Shawntae was playing great at nickel in the preseason and week 1, I'm hoping he's there again in 09. I think Walt is finally losing a step and I'm not sure what to expect yet from Reggie Smith. The 2nd starting CB is worrying me.

    At Safety I'm hope Goldson finally steps up. If not we're in trouble. Since my #10 pick Taylor Mays is staying at USC I'm curious to see what we do at S. Chung looked good in the senior bowl but he's a little light in the ass. I like the kid from Mizz too, but he has yet to wow me. Maybe the combine will clear some things up.

    Oh yeah, we're taking a OL in the draft for sure (#10 Michael Oher RT). And I'm praying to God that Peppers comes in and replaces Pary Harlson and Manny can play the other side. This is that second year off his ACL so I'm expecting Manny to get his speed back. Like we saw with Julian Peterson, although the seahawks got to reap those benefits (probowl years).

    On to free agency and combine…Go Niners!!!

  • joe gomez

    Fair enough but you still haven't answered the question, which team will you be cheering for when the Niners go against the Bears?

  • GeoMak

    joe gomez: Well, let's put it this way. It will kind of me an uncomfortable game for me to watch. Kind of like the Barber parents when Tiki and Ronde played against each other.

    That said, I have been and will be pulling really hard for MS and the Niners (which, as you alluded to earlier, wasn't the easiest thing to do for me, given the Bear/49er history). Honestly, the Bears (no surprise) really F**KED up regarding Singletary. They should have let him know that whenever he was ready, that he could come in and serve his apprenticeship there, with the goal being that one day he's be ready to be the HC of HIS team. Pretty stupid. It would kind of be like watching Ronnie Lott coahing the Giants. But this is a team that fired Mike Ditka and replaced him with Dave Wannstedt. This is the same team that traded a 1st round draft pick for Rick Meier, who played all of five games with the Bears.

    Before George Halas died, he retained Buddy Ryan as DC and hired Mike Ditka as HC. Pretty good moves. After he died, they've made a lot of bad decisions all across the board. The ONLY reason that they even made the SB in 2006 is because they caught lightning-in-a-bottle with Devin Hester, who singlehandedly won a handful of games that year for them. Without him, they don't even sniff the SB.

    I think that if everybody in Ninerland is a little patient (and I know that's hard to do) that MS and Company will turn this team around in the near future. By NFL standards, they've been pretty average in their recent past. By their lofty, 49er standards, however, they've been really crappy in that same time frame, which I know doesn't sit well with the fan base out there.

    But I can only speak for Singletary (and not so much for the front office, as I do not know enough about that subject).

    The 49ers need to copy the Steelers. Pick the "right" coach and stick with him for the long haul, get the right "type" of players (both ability wise and character wise) and then keep the pipeline filled so as players get older and want to break the bank in FA, you have their back-ups ready to go.

    Even though, as we have discussed, quick fixes a far more commonplace now than ever before, the Niners need to have a long-term, ten year plan in place. A plan to very soon get them back to the playoffs and to KEEP them going back year after year.

    They need long term quality and continuity.

  • joe gomez

    Yea understood and Mooch makes a good point, it’s a much tougher road without an elite QB. Without one you need an elite defense because your probably not gonna score alot of points. I’m okay with Hill but I know that we can get someone better. We definitely need to find a big play WR, hopefully we can land one thru FA. I doubt Crabtree will still be around when we pick. So your a Bears fan? Man you must of hated the 49ers back in the day. We used to kill you guys in the playoffs. So now you follow our team for Sing? So who are you rooting for when the Niners play the Bears?

  • http://www.hotmail.com Ryan the 1st

    My Wife is REALLY F$%&$# up to post that on the computer when I went to the restroom.

  • joe gomez

    GeoMak, the front office has stunk like dog shit ever since Eddie D left. This young York kid who is still wet behind the ears has big shoes to fill and honestly I think hes in way over his head. I would have loved to see us hire a knowledgable NFL mind to oversee this team but it hasnt happened. West, thanks for the info about the guy we hired 3 years back, ive never heard of him and thats not a good sign. GeoMak, thanks for all the Singletary knowledge, you seem to know more about him than any of us on here, glad you came on this site. If your gonna jump on the 49ers bandwagon then all I can say is, "welcome Niner fan… welcome."

  • joe gomez

    jj

  • joe gomez

    GeoMak.. the front office has stunk like dogshit ever since Eddie D left. His sister and that Dork York has fucked up this organization beyond recognition. The young Yorkie is going to try to be the next Eddie D but if you ask me this kid is in way over his head. Hes still wet behind the ears for gods sake. Well wait and see. I really wished we wouldve hired a real NFL mind to oversee this team but it hasnt happened. West mentioned some guy nobodys ever heard of and thats not a good sign. Hey GeoMak thanks for all the Singletary knowledge, you seem to know quite more than any of us on here. If your gonna jump on our bandwagon then all I can say to you is …. "welcome Niner fan… welcome."

  • joe gomez

    sorry for reposts guys.. my computer wasnt showing it went through

  • http://www.hotmail.com Ryan the 1st

    It is reported that the Cardinals are asking the niners about Martz for OC…

  • http://www.hotmail.com Ryan the 1st

    I am gay!

  • Lowrance

    LMAO if your wife really posted that!!!!

  • http://www.hotmail.com Ryan the 1st

    OHHHHH yeah, my wife posted that while I was going to the restroom….I should have known because of how quickly she was getting on the computer right after I left.

  • GeoMak

    joe gomez: I think better days are ahead for all you Niner fans. I certainly hope so. Now that Singletary's in charge, everybody needs to step-up-their-game just a little, and the Niners will be fine.

    The players need to play a little better. The coaches need to coach a little better. The owners need to "own" a little better and the front office needs to draft a little better.

    A little improvement across the board, consistently, YEAR AFTER YEAR, by all parties involved will make a big difference in the standings in the going forward.

  • joe gomez

    Agreed GeoMak… except I hope they all get ALOT better!

  • joe gomez

    Did you guys catch the Jimmy Raye interview? Why in hell would he look forward in meeting Alex Smith and saying he has been studying this worthless bust in game films. I hope hes not trying to get him back in the mix, we should release this expensive bum and bring in some fresh competition!

  • joe gomez

    We just cut Tully Banta Cant do shit and Keith Lewis who im kind of disappointed about. Lewis is a beast on special teams and can flat out smash people at Safety. Hopefully they will re-sign him later on in the year.

  • James

    Joe I can tell you right now that the chances of the team bringing Smith back, at a highly reduced, incentive-laden contract is all but a foregone conclusion.

    I for one am behind it. Smith will be healthy from having the shoulder sugery much sooner then he did before and he deserves a chance to show he can succeed. He had no such chance under Hostler and last season was lost not only to his injury but from Martz having such a crush on JTO. Smith might just surprise a lot of people next season.

  • http://www.hotmail.com Ryan the 1st

    At a REDUCED PRICE Smith would be worth a shot. So you have S. Hill and A. Smith then that leaves one more roster spot left for a QB. I REALLY hope they don't take a QB with the tenth pick. What they need to do is to do the niner double dip like they have done in the past. Staley and Lawson are going to show some MAJOR domination this next season. James, GeoMak, and Joe Gomez….do you think the niners would actually take Sanchez and also…if you put your best guess forward who do you think the niners will take with their first TWO picks? With the cap room they are saving they could EASILY get Housh and Otogwe.

  • GeoMak

    James: I totally agree with you. What's past is past. He might come in, with a change of scenery, and play really well. He's obviously can play because I remember he had a had a good year in 2006.

    I'm a firm believer that, for the most part, these rookie QB's play too quickly. In the old days, for the most part, they sat . . . for years. Now, for the most, they're thrown in ASAP. I think they should all sit for at least a year and watch and learn and so on. Just one year. I mean, these guys barely know their new system and they're out there on the field.

    Look at Leinart in Phoenix. He started in his 5th game in his rookie season. Over a league and SB MVP (Kurt Warner). That makes no sense to me at all.

  • GeoMak

    Ryan the 1st.

    I also agree with you and I DON'T think that they should take Sanchez at #10. Too risky.

    To me, draft wise, unless you're almost positive that a guy will be a franchise QB (like a Peyton Manning) then I think you're better off drafting a guy in a lower round (even 2) and grooming him OR trading or signing a guy like Cassell, for example, who has proven can play at the NFL level.

    The biggest problem with drafting these guys real high is what I alluded to in my previous post. Let's say they draft Sanchez at #10 (the exact same spot Leinart went at). How long before everybody wants to see the million dollar QB on the field? About 5 minutes. And then you're back to the main problem (to me).

    These of these guys get rushed out on the field before they're ready and they, the team and the fans all suffer.

    I'd avoid that one all day long.

  • joe gomez

    James how many chances is this joke gonna get? Hes had hundreds of repitions, alot more than other QB's who were cut. Your gonna give this guy another shot. He was never really accurate to begin with and now he has a shoulder that has been operated on not once but twice. You can blame all of his lame "duck" throws on the different OC and Nolan. Those are excuses. This guy lacks NFL talent, that is clearer than crystal. Sorry James, I usually agree with you but not this time.

  • joe gomez

    GeoMak and James: In the NFL, either you have IT or you dont have IT. College to the pros is a bitch, and like alot of QB's they dont have IT. Alex Smith (mark my words) does not have IT. Hill is a much better QB than Smith and even Hill isnt the longtime solution. But Hill is WAY better than the duck throwing off target hang his head low showing no leadership and no heart QB named Alex Smith.

    Trust me I know a bust when I see one, He is a BUST. A second or stringer at best. I will GUARANTEE that or I shall forever leave this site. If Alex Smith becomes a starter and stays a starter for a whole year and has decent to good numbers I will leave this site forever, and thats a promise.

  • joe gomez

    GeoMak, Elvis and Tupac has a better chance coming back from the dead than Alex becoming a productive starter and Niner fans regretting it. Hill is a good fit FOR RIGHT NOW. I know he isnt the long term answer but hes the man for now. Ryan the 1st, I wouldnt pick Sanchez at the ten spot for the simple fact that he isnt worth it. Plus im tired drafting QB's in the high first round, pay him big $$$$ even though he hasnt even proved anything in the NFL. Even worst when your the #1 overall pick, only to find out after 3 fucking seasons that hes a bust. Thats the worst feeling in the world. Alex had soo many chances it was pathetic how he didnt show shit. Even the best year he had in 2006 wasnt that impressive. I hope I dont have to ever go thru that Alex Smith nightmare ever again, because thats what it was, a fucking nightmare. Mark my words, that was the worst pick in 49ers history.

  • West

    Joe Gomez,… I'm with you when it comes to Alex, but i have a feeling he will return at a cheap rate…If he does return I just hope he is holding a clip board….Also would that mean we wouldn't be drafting a late round QB? Sing stated he wanted to bring in a Vet QB, That would leave 1.Hill 2.Vet QB 3.A.Smith an a 4. a rookie QB??? I say dump Alex sign a Vet QB like Leftwitch, Anderson or Garcia an draft a QB in the later rounds to sit an learn for a year or so….

  • joe gomez

    Todd Marinovich 66.4 QB RTG, Andre Ware 63.5 QB RTG, Cade McNown 67.7, David Klinger 65.1, Tim Couch 75.1, Heath Shuler 54.3, Akili Smith 52.8, Ryan Leaf 50.0

    These are some of the worst QB draft picks in NFL history. Now did these guys get FOUR (4) fucking seasons to prove he can do it? Fuck no they didnt that is why its called NFL=NOT FOR LONG. Either you got it or you dont. Hell some of those guys have better ratings then Alex "i throw a duck off target" Smith. His name will be etched in stone right next to those losers.

    ALEX SMITH 63.5 QB RTG

  • joe gomez

    I dont know how many TV sets ive broken throwing shit at them watching Alex throw. Please god, spare us Niner fans and deal this bum out of here. I beg you Jesus oh lord, we want a backup QB who doesnt overthrow, underthrow, no touch on the throw, then hangs is head down every time he throws his "ducks." Weve witnessed that for three long years lord and thank god you showed mercy by tweaking his shoulder. Thank you for that one lord. Now we have Shaun Hill, hes capable but nothing special. Lets get that stud QB were used to here in Ninerland and Hill can be that capable backup. Where do we find this stud QB? Draft? Free Agency? I dont know where but we will find him someday! Amen.

  • http://niners Medford

    Wat's up with you guy's wanting Garcia back? Talk about no arm strength Id rather have Hill!!!!!

    Leftwich is ok if we dont over pay him….

  • GeoMak

    joe gomez:

    All I know is this: I watched all the games Hill played last year under Singletary and I pretty much liked what I saw. He has the intangibles that I like to see, if not the “rocket arm” and such.

    All I know about Smith is that he had a pretty good 2006 and about his shoulder problems and his problems with Nolan.

    Maybe the time off has done him some good. Look at Aaron Rodgers. He was forced to sit for years behind Favre and when his time came in 2008 he played well.

    I think guys like Smith are rushed into action too early and it’s usually counterproductive. If the money is right let him compete for the starting job. If he wins it fine; if not, that’s fine too.

    The worst case scenario is that he leaves the Niners, goes to another team, and becomes a productive starter. That would REALLY piss off a lot of people in SF.

  • joe gomez

    GeoMak.. would you call 16 TD’s with 16 INT’s a good season? I certainly dont. That was Alex’s BEST season ever with a 74 QB RTG. The other two seasons? Pathetic 40 and 57 QB RTG. Like I said hes had PLENTY of fucking chances. People who feel sorry for him tend to make excuses for him. He sucks and thats the bottom line.

  • West

    Ryan the 1st…. I see us getting Oshiomogho Atogwe (FS) from Rams and a Vet QB, “Leftwitch would be my 1st choice,” D. Anderson. Or Garcia to groom our rookie, Nate Davis, Curtis Painter, Josh Freeman, Graham Harrell ” in that order” …….. I dont see us getting Hous, I really think he will land with the N.Y Giants…

    With our 10th overall pick i really hope we stay away from a QB.. I’m leaning towards “B.J. Raji,” DT, but wouldnt be mad with former tight end “Jason Smith” OT or “Jeremy Mcline” WR why not Evertte Brown…

    either way, we are sitting in a nice spot!! Once F.A hits we will have a better idea. Tank Johnson DT is also a F.A.

    On Evertte my only ?’s are where would he play… DE or OLB.. We have J. Smith, Balmer(dont know what he can do), McDonald ( i like showed improvment) an Sopoaga( more of a short yardage DT goalline run stopper) at DE, …As for OLB we have Lawson,Haralson..guessing he would come in for Lawson??

  • joe gomez

    Holding a clipboard? No West, not even the Niners water boy. I want him out of the organization. Why even risk being one injury away from seeing the Alex Smith nightmare all over again? Fuck that. Send this loser somewhere else if he wants a fresh start, not with us. We can get a more capable backup somewhere else. Cassel is going to be a backup now since Brady is back. We need a backup who is “starter” material. Fuck Alex Smith.

  • West

    Lol… I hear u, Best to let him go…. We gotta hope his agent tells him he can get more money with CHANGE… I’m not in the locker room but does the team even believe in Alex?? My guess ‘NO” Something I hope Sing an Company think about!!

  • joe gomez

    I say dump Alex sign a Vet QB like Leftwitch, Anderson or Garcia an draft a QB in the later rounds to sit an learn for a year or so….

    I just saw that West… I agree totally. Leftwich can compete with Hill and draft the #3 QB. Send Alex Smith to be a 4th stringer in the CFL. Thats if he can make the team.

  • West

    My 1st F.A. hopes are Oshiomogho Atogwe (FS) unseat Roman an Leftwich to battle Hill…

  • joe gomez

    Garcia doesn't have a weak arm, he's got average arm strength and he was pretty accurate on his throws. I believe he did make the Pro Bowl didn't he? Is he over Hill? Maybe. But it's worth a look. Hill needs to compete for the starting so we have to bring in somebody. Alex Smith won't be competing for a starting role. Hopefully hell go back home to San Diego and shares that bong with Phelps. Leftwich or how about Warner? He's not sure if he wants to come back to AZ. Maybe we could get Anquan AND Warner. That would be sweet.

  • jockstrap

    Give the guy a chance. We haven’t seen what he has to ofer.

  • DeeKon52

    Yoooo…What’s up yall?? This hire looks pretty bad according to the stats.. Remember the Raiders have sucked for a while now.. They havent had a good offense since they had an array of weapons back with charlie garner….So i wouldn’t dog Jimmy Raye just yet… I’m sure Singletary wanted him based on his character…and Singletary is the type of man that you want to impress and gain respect from so I think the niners will be fine.. A great team needs loyalty aND CONSISTENCY…all of this “what have u done for me now??” is bullshit

  • DeeKon52

    Yoooo…What’s up yall?? This hire looks pretty bad according to the stats.. Remember the Raiders have sucked for a while now.. They havent had a good offense since they had an array of weapons back with charlie garner….So i wouldn’t dog Jimmy Raye just yet… I’m sure Singletary wanted him based on his character…and Singletary is the type of man that you want to impress and gain respect from so I think the niners will be fine.. A great team needs loyalty aND CONSISTENCY…all of this “what have u done for me now??” is bullshit

  • DeeKon52

    ***”What have you done for me LATELY??” My badd

  • http://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/49ers/archives/019502.html?mi_rss=49ers%20Blog%20and%20Q%26A West

    Mel Kiper Jr has the 49ers picking Penn State defensive end Aaron Maybin. Quickness and explosiveness off the ball. Maybin finished the season with 12 sacks and seven tackles for loss. Maybin, who would play OLB for the 49ers, has quickness. The question is whether he has the size having played at Penn State at around 240 pounds. He has said he is hoping to arrive at the combine at 250 pounds

  • Niner_Dude

    GUYS ARE YOU SERIOUS? JEFF GARCIA? TALK ABOUT GOING BACKWARDS! ARE YOU GUYS REALLY 9ER FANS? OK…9ERS SIGN GARCIA…HE PLAYS FOR HOW LONG? THE DUDE IS OLD…IT TIME FOR HIM TO JOIN BRETT IN RETIREMENT…I CAN’T BELIEVE THAT IDEA EVEN CROSSED YOUR MINDS…I HATE THE FACT THAT ITS ON MY MIND NOW…HOLD ON LET ME CLEAR IT…

    MMMMMMMMM….BEEEEERRRRRR!

    USC’S SANCHEZ? 10TH OVERALL PICK? HELL TO THE NO…TO QUOTE JOE GOMEZ…

    “I wouldnt pick Sanchez at the ten spot for the simple fact that he isnt worth it. Plus im tired drafting QB’s in the high first round, pay him big $$$$ even though he hasnt even proved anything in the NFL. Even worst when your the #1 overall pick, only to find out after 3 fucking seasons that hes a bust. Thats the worst feeling in the world.”

    I’M WIT’CHA DUDE…

    AND AS FOR ALEX SMITH…(LMFAO) GIVE ME A F*CKIN’ BREAK! HE’S DONE I DONT WANT HIM!

    WITH THE 42 PICK THE 49ERS SELECT…PAT WHITE QUATERBACK WEST VIRGINIA!

  • joe gomez

    When was the last time Mel Kiper got something right?

  • West

    Niner dude…. Pat White?? 1 problem, seems to me he may end up a WR…" I could b wrong" But keep in mind We already have Battle, Robinson. There is other qb's we can look at in the later rounds. Nate Davis, Curtis Painter, Josh Freeman, Graham Harrell, Personal favorites Nate Davis an Curtis Painter could be nice with a year or so to learn from a Vet like Garcia.. If it was up to me i would sign Leftwitch qb Steelers an draft Nate Davis or Curtis Painter….

  • joe gomez

    Ninet_Dude, we gotta get somebody in to compete with Hill. Yea Garcia is getting old but I would rather have him competing with Hill than Alex “the duck thrower” Smith wouldn’t you? I think Leftwich, Warner, McNabb, D. Anderson, or some other veteran should come in and compete. Than we can draft a QB to learn behind Hill & the veteran. Hopefully Alex won’t be on the roster when we start the regular season. As far as safety we HAVE to replace Roman with a ball hawk type safety. West, I agree we should pursue the guy from the Rams. As far as other defensive players, I guess Haynesworth would be the biggest catch. Terel Suggs, Julius Peppers, or the stud CB from the Raiders would be a plus. Even Ray Lewis is available. Can you imagine Lewis, Willis, Spikes, Peppers? Or even Lawson, Willis, Spikes, Peppers. At WR we need to go after Housh or Boldin that is a must. We got good WR’s already but they are all young besides old man Bruce. We need to make a big splash in free agency then kick ass in the draft. If we do that, then we can finally start talking NFC West Title!

  • RedandGold

    I just don’t get it….. I can tell you guys and every other team’s fans that no matter how bad or how good my 49ers do, im still bleed red and gold till the day i go!!! But i just dont get how some ppl on here think that they know more then ppl that play or work with Alex smith. Look turner said that Alex was the best QB that he ever worked with, so what makes you think you know more then turner??????

    I don’t want to piss ppl off or start some shit with my 9er fans, but some of you make me hate my team with all your info about FOOTBALL.

    All im trying to say is the ones that know football, say that Alex has mad skillz, and you know what, other than young, 9ers have never had a qb with his skillz.

    If Alex is not with the 9ers next year, I hope someone pick him up, just to show you ppl that you dont know what you are talking about.

    RedandGold 4 Life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • joe gomez

    RedandGold… I guess Turner was wrong about him. He was probably good in practice but when it came to games it blew it out of his ass. Look, nobody and I mean nobody, no team has given a player this many chances (3 years, hundreds of snaps) to show something. Look at my prior post and see all the QB’s that were drafted high like Smith. We would be fucking crazy to give this guy a 4th year to see what he can do. Its obvious Shaun Hill is better than Smith and thats just the reality of it. Saying that, I dont feel Shaun Hill is the answer. Alex Smith would be a good 2nd or 3rd stringer if he practiced and practiced and practiced. Other than that, he doesnt even belong in the NFL. Ran a shot gun spread out offense in a very weak WAC division. He was a big mistake and now we must move on to bigger and better things. Seems like Hill will do for now so as far as you being such a Alex fan, maybe you could root for the CFL team he plays for one day. If and thats a big IF he even makes the roster. Like ive said, College to Pro football is a very big jump and if you dont have IT than you just dont have IT. Three years is way too long to figure out this guy doesnt have IT. Shit two years was long enough for me. I ran out of shit to throw at my television set! All the ugly wobbly off target ducks that he threw
    made me want to puke. Then he would hang his head low like a little pussy. No leadership whatsoever. Like West said, and he made a very good point. Will the locker room believe in this guy and follow him? The answer is HELL NO! They seem to have Shaun Hill’s back right now so well ride with him. FOR NOW.

  • Ninaz

    Jesus christ how long has this website been without an update? Post BS i dont care say that Tom Brady will join the 49ers just change something!

  • Lottie901

    FUCK ALEXIS SMITH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Medford

    Hey Joe are you freakin serious Garcia has a good arm? How many games did we lose cause he couldnt hit that open WR? Why would we sign Garcia what is he like 36 or 37 he aint no future. I agree with you many times on here Joe but not this time…

  • joe gomez

    Medford, all I know is I would rather have Garcia back up Hill than Alex Smith. Thats all im saying. The guy did make to the damn Pro Bowl didnt he? Something that our QB’s we have now probably will never accomplish. You said he had a WEAK arm, I said he had an AVERAGE arm. I never claimed he was our future. Cmon now, you reading in between the lines too much. I was merely saying that if Alex was gonna battle for the starter I would rather have a veteran come in and do that. It doesnt have to be Garcia, Leftwich is another example or any other veteran. If somebody is going to battle Hill I dont want Alex in the mix period. I stand behind everything I say. Garcia did wonders when he was with the Eagles and the Bucs so he cant be that bad, even if it was to backup Hill.

  • joe gomez

    Medford, I think the QB you were referring to as the guy who was missing open WR’s is Alex Smith. There is no way in hell you were referring to Garcia, Cmon guy what game were you watching? Nobody since Young has even come close to putting up numbers Garcia has. Just to post some of his years with the Niners…

    Year: 2000 Passed for 2,704 yards, 18TD/13INT (80.1QB RTG)
    Year: 2001 Passed for 3,344 yards, 21TD/10INT (85.6QB RTG)
    Year: 2002 Passed for 3,538 yards, 32TD/12INT (94.8QB RTG)
    Year: 2003 Passed for 4,278 yards, 31TD/10INT (97.6QB RTG)

    Dont forget his comeback playoff victory over the Giants, I believe was the 2nd biggest comeback in playoff history behind the Bills over Houston. Then he guided the Eagles into the playoffs when McNabb went down. Then he played well with the Bucs. And again, hes been to the Pro Bowl so your analogy that this guy sucks is way off base Medford. Way off! Not saying hes the answer or the future, but to choose somebody to battle Hill in a QB competition I would welcome him over Alex “I throw off target ducks” Smith any fucking day! Would I rather have Leftwich, probably so, but we need a fucking veteran to come in just like Sing said.

  • Medford

    Ok Im with you on that Joe I wouldnt mind Garcia as a backup. And his stats were good I just wish we never let him go in the first place if we didnt have a plan but now to go back to him would be wrong unless he was the backup. The throws he did that didnt hit the mark were some against the Seahawks I remember on a Monday Night and others and all his crazy legs drove me nuts. I was always a Garcia supporter but we need a future here and not a bandaid. But everyone knows that if Garcia came here everyone in the media and alot of fans would want him to start.

  • joe gomez

    Well if he beats out Hill in training camp then I’m sure he will start. I agree I hate band aid fixes, but who else is put there? Were stuck in the same OC situation, as in there’s not a whole lot of choices at this point.

  • joe gomez

    Jerry where the hell you been? Anderson had a down season though didnt he? Man I welcome ANY capable veteran to come in and compete with Shaun Hill. Just as long as its not Alex "I throw off target ducks and then hang my head low" Smith!

  • Los Banos Jerry

    I would rather have Garcia than Leftwich. Garcia is more mobile.

    But I would rather they make a trade with the Browns, and get
    Anderson. Who is an outstanding play action pass QB.

    Happy Valentines Day

  • Ninaz

    Browns will never let go of Anderson nuff said! they would trade Brady Quinn before they trade Anderson.

  • Los Banos Jerry

    They have more money tied up in Quinn. I think Anderson can be had

  • Loeher

    Alex Smith is a bust. He had potential, but Nolan tottaly burnt him.

    It's very rare to find a Flacco/Ryan, most QBs take something like 3 years to play at a high level in the NFL.

    Nolan picked him and just throwed him at a attack with no running game (Gore was not the starter yet), no protection (Larry Allen dominated the running game, but he always were just good as a Pass Blocker) and virtually no receivers. There's just no way a QB can do good under that circunstances.

    Under Turner, Gore was "discovered", so, we had a running game, and Smith started to play better, but got injured, same thing on the other seasons.

    Smith is a mix of Bad Playing, Bad Coaching, Bad Developing and certainly Bad Luck.

    Right now he's just nothing more than an expensive water boy, he should be cut. It would actually be better for him, to realise his career in the NFL have not worked and move on to something else.

  • Julio

    I think we need to go after Jeff Garcia, look at Kurt Warner, 37 or 38 is not old but in football standards it is unfortunatly because of the wear and tear on the body. The experience and the knowledge that Garcia would bring to our team will be great, this is very similar to what Warner did with the Cardinals, he was a journeyman, bouncing from team to team till he got the right fit. Warner beat out the USC kid for the job and took over and made that team better. Sure, Warner had the best receiver in todays game with Fitzgerald, but Fitzgerald would not get the ball if he did not have a good QB. Garcia, would love to come back to the bay area were he grew up, his father could bring out his old JG tshirts he always wore at the games and he would be his number one cheerleader. I am all in favor of the move Garcia, ans I hope we do it! Garcia loved the 49ers growing up and he would love to come back and redem himself in our history, just imagine, we pick him up and we pull out a miraculous season were we win a championship or go deep in the playoffs. THis is jeff’s last chance and I am sure he wants it badle especially in a niner uniform, to be considered one of the greats next to his boyhood idol Joe Montana. We need To get him this could be the answer, if its for 2 or 3 years and we pick up a championship in one of those 3 years I am all for it! Get him 49ers!

  • Los Banos Jerry

    Joe Anderson had a horrible year. Everyone on his offense went out with injury. Last year he had the same people healthy and he was outstanding.

    I’ve been waiting for the coaching arguments to subside………….

    Free agency and the draft our my passion…………

  • Niner_Dude

    JOE GOMEZ…ITS NO DOUBT WE NEED TO HAVE COMPETITION AT THE QB POSITION…A VETERAN PRESENCE WOULD BE GREAT…BUT WHAT WE NEED IS AN UP GRADE…I CONSIDER GARCIA TO BE ON THE SAME LEVEL AS SHAWN HILL AT THIS POINT IN HIS CAREER…SURE WE CAN BRING IN GARCIA…BUT IS HE SUPPOSE TO TAKE US TO THE PROMISE LAND…
    NOOOO! JULIOOOOO! COME ON DUDE…CHAMPIONSHIP WITH GARCIA…SORRY DUDE I DONT AGREE…I THINK SHAWN HILL IS VERY CAPABLE AND WILL ONLY IMPROVE…

    WEST…THE DIFFERENCE OF PAT WHITE COMPARED TO BATTLE AND ROBINSON…P.WHITE IS A VERY GOOD QB…HE HAS THE TOOLS TO BE A QB AND BE DRAFTED AS A QB IF HE SO CHOOSES AND VERY CAPABLE TO MOVE TO WR…ALSO I SAY

    BRING IN MICHEAL VICK…

  • joe gomez

    Niner_Dude, Michael Vick? Oh hell no! That dog killer has legs but his arm has ALWAYS been inaccurate! Hes about as accurate Alex Smith! Fuck no, he is definitely NOT the answer. Also, I was looking at Garcia as a possible backup instead of Smith. The only person I see available that would probably be better than Hill is Leftwich or Anderson. Warner or McNabb is not 100% gonna be back with their old team. Well see what happens. But Michael Vick as a Niner? That would not be a smart move! Look at that man’s passing stats, hes down there with Alex!

  • AXEGRINDER

    I was also waiting in line about 4 feet away from Maiocco, Barrows, and Kawakami. I so wanted to bust Kawakami's forehead open, but I held back. I was telling my friend about what a douchebag he is, I think he heard me.

  • Texas9er

    I would like to add one more thing. I really like the way Jed York is handling things. He wants to win and looks like he will do everything in his power to do that. Its crazy to see a guy who is around my age running the 49ers. It feels like we are on the right path. I think the days of picking in the top ten every year are over. We have a solid chance to go to the playoffs next year. Lets Rock and Roll 49ers!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Texas9er

    I didn't get to see the Q and A part of the video but I read that the 49ers are going back to the old school uni's in the future. I hope its next year. Bring EM back for 09

  • joe gomez

    Thanks for the insight guys. Damn Texas9er, didnt realize you were so young. So you were probably too young to see the glory years of the early 80's. Before a young Joe "Cool" came along and dissected the fuck out of the Cowboys defense in the regular season on national tv. We spanked them hard, and from that day on, people knew there was a new dynasty coming.

  • joe gomez

    Anybody catch the State of the Franchise that was conducted today? I forgot all about it. Let me know if anyone tuned in or was actually there. I want to know what the top heavies had to say.

  • AXEGRINDER

    I was there. With the exception of Singletary, they all towed the company line. They provided virtually no insight.

    Coach Sing was entertaining though. He got the crowd fired up without really meaning to. I thought he was the man before this event, after being there and hearing him totally command a room, I realize more than ever that this guy really doesn’t know how to fail. He will turn this team around. I’m 110% sure of that.

  • Texas9er

    After tonights speech there shouldn’t be any problems with Singletary as our head coach. Great jop Coach Sing. I got goose bumps just listening to him talk. I can’t wait for this season, I really have a good fealing about this year. Its been a long time since we were good I think our long drought is over. Thank god for Mike Singletary!

  • Texas9er

    Yeah your right. I started watching the 49ers in the early 90's. I was forced to be a Cowboys fan when I was a little kid. Even at a young age I noticed that all of the Cowboy fans didn't have a clue what they were talking about. When I was about 8 I saw my first 49ers game. It was the game when Steve Young had that huge scramble against the Vikings. About a month later I moved and my next door neighbor was a 49er fan and it jumped from there. Ever since then I have been a die hard 49er fan. My favorite 49er was Steve Young and Will always be Steve Young. I never had a dad when I was young so Steve Young is the person resposible for me liking football. Steve young gave me the greatest birthday present anyone had ever giving me too. The Catch with T.O. was on my birthday. That was one of the best days of my live. Sorry about all of the shit we had going on a few weeks beck. I didn't mean any of it. Its nice to be talking football and not talking shit.

  • Bobby Boucher

    Fred Taylor anyone?

  • Texas9er

    If he comes cheap. I think we can get better value in the draft.

  • 9nerfan

    deuce was just cut by the saints. sing wanted a running team. he would be a great compliment to frank gore. BUT i really do think that we should give thomas clayton a chance. i think he's a good back. got speed, power, quickness. from what i see him do in presaeson, he's good. i know it's preseason but still. i really want to see him get a chance to back up frank gore.

  • Bobby Boucher

    I think Fred Taylor would be a great value. Go back to Texas with your shit Texas9er, I would love to kick your ass before and after my sex change operation. We know you are the same guy from Texas, who cannot spell worth a shit!

  • BIlly

    Bobby Boucher calm your ass down the guy brings a good point its only if he comes cheap cause he got released due a 6 mil contract I believe and we could probably get a younger player.

    I am for Chris McAlister for FS!

  • BIlly

    Hey guys Im hearing all this BS by “Analysts” who dont know jack squat saying we are getting Sanchez, hey Im a USC fan but I think hes an over-rated piece of shit. I want Crabtree if available if not we get the best OT, OLB, DE

  • Texas9er

    What are you talking about Bobby. All I said it that we should spend money on a washed up player who wants more than he is worth. Ohh and I wil tri tu worc on mi spelin four u.

  • Bobby Boucher

    I wasn't even going to say anything to you dipshit. Then you post as me so you can talk to yourself. You are so fucking sad. If I would have said something I definitely would have brought up the fact that you're a fatherless piece of Texas toadshit.

  • Texas Bastard

    I'm sorry you feel that way about me Bobby. I wish we could just talk about football. My daddy left the day I was born because he could tell that I was going to turn out to be a sissy bitch. I cry into my pillow every night you monster.

  • Carlos

    I heard at the state of the franchise address that we will in fact have a uniform change coming soon. A guy from the 49ers Panel said that "what is normal", and he said we would go back to our championship colors. I hope that he means we will be going back to out throwback uniforms, and not a new uniform with the old colors. The fans want the old throwbacks from the 80's, the uniforms we wore this past season, and I hope that is what we will get! Does anyone know if the 49ers are clear on this.

  • Bobby Boucher

    Barrows reported that we will have new uniforms for 09. The new design will be shown at the draft day party.

  • James

    If the team pursued and signed Johnson then I shudder to think of the havoc that could be caused by an Orakpo and Lawson on the ends…

  • Niner_Dude

    WELL…THE 9ERS SAID NO WAY TO VICK SO…LET'S MOVE ON…

    NO DEUCE…FRED TAYLOR? MAYBE…ONLY AT A VERY CHEAP PRICE…BUT ALL THIS TALK ABOUT A FA RUNNING BACK…DID WE ALL FORGET ABOUT D. FOSTER…HE'S ALREADY ON THE ROSTER…WE JUST NEED TO USE HIM MORE…USE HIM LIKE CAROLINA USES THERE TWO RB'S…FOSTER IS A GOOD CAPABLE BACK…NO QUESTIONS ASK…I THINK HE DID GREAT WHEN GORE WENT DOWN…MAYBE DRAFT A RB IN APRIL…DERICK WARD WOULD BE A NICE FA PICK UP TO…TJ HOUSH ALSO…BUT THE BEST FA FOR THE NINERS TO PICK UP WOULD BE…JORDAN GROSS FROM THE PANTHERS…

    NEW UNIFORMS SOUNDS…NOT GOOD…I THINK WE SHOULD GO BACK TO THE WHITE PANTS UNI'S…THE YEAR OF THE LAST SUPERBOWL…'93-'94 SEASON…

  • Carlos

    I hope they do not redesign the uniforms, thats not what the fans want, we want the throwbacks from the 1980’s. I think the 49ers think we want a new uniform with the old colors, not true, we want the throwbacks!

  • joe gomez

    Im open to signing Deuce or Taylor. Shit if were gonna be running the hell our of Gore hes gonna need alot of help. Foster was ok but I think we can always upgrade. As for the defense, theres shitload of talent out there in the FA market but McClueless already said were not gonna be doing anything big so I dont expect to be very aggressive. He wants to build thru the draft, and the way this idiot picks that is not a good sign.

  • Texas9er

    Real Classy Bobby.

  • West

    Billy…. dont count out BJ Raji DT, Boston College

  • West

    Texas9er, by chance do you know if the Rams tagged (FS) Oshiomogho Atogwe? A must for the 9ers

  • James

    Texas, there’s always one, just when it seems like things are settling down somoene else comes in and stirs the pot. No worries though, as you’ve seen it means nothing really. I have been away from the comments section for a few weeks. Really just needed to recharge my batteries and I am also working on my masters degree and I finish it in June so things are hectic there as well.

    I will be back though, at least more then I have been and then once I complete my degree I will have nothing but time on my hands, just in time for camp to open in July.

    I would not be against taking a look at Duece, he showed some flare last season when Bush went down for a stretch and he is a proven player. I have to agree though I think the team should give Clayton a real chance to be Franks back-up this season.

    On the report that the team visited Vick in prison, I believe it but honestly I cannot see them signing him, the man is most likely going to miss the ’09 season anyway unless Goodell decides that his time in prison was punishment enough, unlikely. Also Vick comes with far more baggage than the 49ers will accept. And lastly, he is simply just not a very good quarterback.

    Raji could be there at 10 however I am still praying to the good Lord every night that by some miracle Brian Orakpo is there when the team drafts in the first round.

  • West

    James,….. nice call Brian Orakpo could be there for us at 10, We are sitting in a great spot, so much good talent around our pick… It will really depend on what we do in F.A…. If we grab Tank Johnson then we probable pass on BJ Raji… We really need a DT to free up our DE’s an LB’s

  • BIlly

    Yeah West, Otagwe was tagged , heres the link:

    http://blogs.nfl.com/2009/02/18/contract-talks-re

  • BIlly

    Yeah West heres the link:

    http://blogs.nfl.com/2009/02/18/contract-talks-re

    Well I hope we can get McAlister(FS) for cheap!

  • Texas9er

    Its all good. Nice remarks.

  • Texas9er

    It would be cool if Brian Orakpo ends up a 49er. He’s my favorite player at Texas and to see him wear the 49er colors would be a dream come true. There is plenty of players worthy of the # 10 pick. It would be really hard for them to screw this one up.

  • http://niners Medford

    Old uniforms are ugly why go back there with those khaki pants with the big stripe on them and the high school looking shirts. What is wrong with r uniforms i like them. Just cause we change r uniform back to the 80's uniform doesnt mean wins people.

    Prediction for this year r offense is going to be very very boring even Sing said if we have a 3 point lead he's going to sit on the ball and run run run. Wow cant wait for the Nedney show every Sunday.

    And another thing that Mcclueless really is CLUELESS he is still preaching build through the draft thing. 8 starters on defense last year came from free agency it's hard to build through the draft when you draft Kentwan Balmer with #1 pick and he has zero inpact the whole season.

    IM OFF MY SOAPBOX NOW……..

  • BIlly

    I wouldnt mind having Crabtree he is the player I want, I know its not a pressing need but I like the guy and think we should pick him to have a go to guy for ONCE, in a long time.

    If not Id love Aaron Curry, Brian Orakpo, or any of the Top 3 O-lineman with our pick

    As for FA Id love McCalister to replace Roman since Otagwe has been franchised but only at the right price. Id say Haynesworth but hed eat up ALL our cap I hope someone good becomes available

    And again, anyone as mad as me about IDIOTS saying we are going to pick Sanchez or Macklin

  • West

    Billy,…. r u sure Oshiomogho Atogwe has been hit with the tag? I cant find it!

  • AXEGRINDER

    I heard Peppers will only accept a trade to 4 teams, fuckin’ Cowboys are one of ‘em. I thought the Cowboys ran a 4-3. Can someone clear this up? Maybe since Wade’s been there they are runnin’ a 3-4. I try to not pay attention to what scheme those bastards run since they are a piece of shit franchise with a piece of shit quarterback and a piece of shit wide receiver with a piece of shit owner and piece of shit fans in a piece of shit stadium in a piece of shit city in a piece of shit state, and if Peppers goes there then he’s a piece of shit too. (no offense Texas9er)

  • Niner_Dude

    RB KNOWSHON MORENO ANYBODY?

  • West

    Billy…your right,Atogwe off the boards….Next on my list would be Cleveland Browns (SS) Sean Jones. I know he is a CURRENTLY (SS)but he was a (FS) in college… And as you all know he is a Ball Hawker even at(SS)…. Get it done Sing

  • joe gomez

    Medford.. with you all the way. McClueless keeps talkin that "build through the draft" every fucking year but yet all he has to his credit is Willis and Gore. Two solid picks in how many years? The guy is pathetic. We need to get a GM who knows what theyre doing.

    How long have we been working on the O-line? How long have we been searching for that go to WR? Alex Smith is probably the worst pick of them all and this motherfucker says he still thinks hes great! Huh? McClueless is a fucking joke!

  • BIlly
  • Texas9er

    I wouldn't mind that at all. The more University of Texas players the better.

  • West

    Billy, ….. I wouldnt mind Micheal Huff, but not at FS…We should have him playing his natural position he played in College DB…

  • MSouza

    Every great team has to build through the draft. Teams that try to do it all in free agency turn into the Raiders, last years Jets and the Washington Redskins. I like Rachal, Goldson could become a player if he stays healthy, I think we all agree Morgan has a chance to be special, J.Hill looks good when healthy, Snyder has a lot of upside and held his own at RT last year, Baas played lights out last year down the stretch, T.Brown might be a good nickel, Vernon is one of the best blocking tight ends in the game, and I’m excited to see what Man Law does with a full years recovery.

    I know what your saying Joe, it doesn’t seem like we are getting anywhere with the draft, but in reality a lot of our picks are turning into decent players. If you can find a guy on the second day that can contribute to your team, it really is a good pick-up, even if they don’t turn into stars. I think most of our resignations of building through the draft come from the Alex Smith pick, which we still haven’t recovered from, but Free agents are way too expensive to build your team around. Look at how much TBC got just for a good playoff run. We gave Clements 26 mil guaranteed. If you build a team that way, you have a very limited 1-2 year window of winning it all, after that, due to the high salaries of the players, you have to start cutting ties, and begin the rebuilding process again.

  • Fan #1

    Joe Gomez do us all a favor and SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!! You ruin this site big time you negative prick.

  • joe gomez

    #1 dickhead.. make me shut up, you dumb bitch. I havent even heard of your bitch ass, and your gonna come on here and attack me like that? hahaha.. spit some knowledge first idiot and maybe you can talk, otherwise why dont you SHUT THE FUCK UP!

  • DcNinerFan

    Don't you guys love personal attacks from anonymous users? Sure beats a face to face confrontation.

    Hey West, I would think the Niners would scratch any OL free agents from Pittsburgh… There is a reason why Rothlesberger had cracked ribs and a few concussions… The line play wasn't that stellar. Its their D-line that has had the success (granted that last drive was great…)

    I personally would like to see us make a run for Housh, Phillips, and maybe Carrey, although I haven't seen much of his play… That might solidify some of our key weaknesses right now.

    And everyone screaming yes or no to Vick, the team seems to have made the decision already, which is no. So let that one rest.

    Hill should be our starter as of right now, and unless Alex Smith becomes superman in the next few months that should not change. Bring in another Vet, sure, but thats just added security. Hill isn't a glamorous QB, but he DOES win games… except in the 3rd quarter. ;-)

  • James

    Souza is right, there might not be that gamebreaking receiver in the picks that McCloughan has taken or the stud defensive end but what this team does have is some very good position players who have a chance to become even better with more playing time.

    Davis has not been fully unleashed in his time here, that is more a credit to his superior blocking prowess then anything, that and the offenses the team has employed have not been focused on the tight end position. I am actually excited to see if Raye can have the same kind of success with Vernon that he had with Tony Gonzales in Kansas City.

    Smith still has s chance to do something on this team and I for one have not given up hope on him. If he comes back healthy, gets back a form of the system they ran in 2006 when he started every game and had his best season then I think he has a chance to be the starter. Time will tell on that.

    Building through the draft is a good thing Joe, as Souza said, the teams that attempt to build through free agency rarely do anything good. The best example of this philosophy IS the Redskins. Free agency should be used as a tool to plug the most significant holes on either side of the ball or for getting the one name who can put your team over the top, not as the catalyst for trying to become champions.

    Someone tell me how many big name free agents either the Steelers or Cardinals have signed year in and year out. Sure Warner and James for AZ and honestly I can’t think of one for Pittsburgh. These teams have drafted and cultivated some great talent. See Roethlisberger, Parker, Polamalu, Ward – Boldin, Fitzgerald, Rolle, Rodgers-Cromartie.

    The draft is what makes teams good, correction, productive drafts are what make teams good. On paper it doesn’t seem like the last few have been good for San Francisco but looking a little deeper it is clear that they could have been much worse.

  • AXEGRINDER

    It’s practically a non-issue now since most of the decent free agents are gone, with the exception of maybe Phillips. The 49ers were such garbage that they pretty much had no choice but to go after free agents. I think we’ll see some draft picks step up this year.

  • West

    franchise player complete official list:

    Arizona: LB Karlos Dansby

    Atlanta: P Michael Koenen

    Baltimore: LB Terrell Suggs

    Carolina: DE Julius Peppers

    Cincinnati: K Shayne Graham

    Houston: CB Dunta Robinson

    New England: QB Matt Cassel

    N.Y. Giants: RB Brandon Jacobs

    Pittsburgh: OT Max Starks

    San Diego: RB Darren Sproles

    St. Louis: S Oshiomogho Atogwe

    Seattle: LB Leroy Hill

    Tampa Bay: WR Antonio Bryant

    Tennessee: TE Bo Scaife

    Quick look at some of the players the 49ers might target.

    Offensive tackle: Marvel Smith (Pittsburgh), Khalif Barnes (Jacksonville) and Vernon Carey (Miami).

    Wide receiver: T.J. Houshmandzadeh (Cincinnati), Devery Henderson (New Orleans) and Nate Washington (Pittsburgh).

    Safety: Jermaine Phillips (Tampa Bay), Sean Jones (Cleveland) and Yeremiah Bell (Miami).

    Sean Jones (Cleveland) was a (FS) in College “get it done Sing” Thats our Ballhawker

  • BIlly

    Any thoughts on getting SS Micheal Huff after he get released by Oakland?

  • West

    McCloughan has said he plans on signing 4 to 6 free agents…

    Vernon Carey (Miami) RT and Sean Jones (Cleveland) playing FS are the 2 players I hope the 9ers sign in Free Agency…..

    We also know we will be signing a Fullback… Could it be Weaver from Seattle?

    I feel good about the direction the 9ers are heading, I know alot of you may not agree but i feel our Drafts and Free Agent pick ups are more on than off….

  • http://www.hotmail.com Ryan the 1st

    Yeah, with the cap room we will have we have to get Jones or Phillips AND Housh. There is not excuse to not get both of those players. Jonas Jennings isn’t going to be kept and Alex Smith is going to re work the contract ( I hope)….we need to get some pieces out of this free agency period. Lastly, we need to sure up Baas and Haralson…they need to be paid so they don’t leave and let’s not forget to pad the Patrick Willis fund…he must never be allowed to wear another uniform besides ours again.

  • GeoMak

    James:

    Your 2:12 post was excellent.

  • Carlos

    Does anyone know if the 49ers are going to bring back the 1980’s throwbacks, or a new design all together. At the meeting the other night, the guy was saying “whats normal”, like we the fans do not know what we want. We want the throwbacks, the same way we had them last season, the Bill Walsh era uniforms exactly the same. I think that guy thinks the fans want new uniforms all together, I guess he’s a little in the dark or something or just a little old. Has anyone heard a hint that they will be the 1980’s throwbacks, can someone let me know! I hope it is the throwbacks, thats what we want, please jesus! Someone let me know or find something out! JAMES, DO YOU KNOW PROFESSOR!

  • James

    Thanks Geo…

  • James

    Not sure I read you there Carlos… if Professor is who I think it is then no… lol.

  • http://niners Medford

    James it’s ok to build through the draft if you do it right and draft for now not 2 or 3 years down the road like we have been doing. Yeah Willis is great and Gore is good who else? We still dont have a #1 Wr, Qb and even a pro bowl offensive player in how long? Gore 2 years ago. McClueless drafts for depth like this team is the freakin Steelers or something we would have never saw Rachel if Sing wasnt the coach I assure u of that.

  • angelo49ers

    joe gomez yeah ur right… just wondering

  • James

    Joe, I have to disagree with you on TJ, he is not a #1 receiver and never will be. Besides that if the 49ers do get him they will have to outbid other teams and will therefore be grossly overpaying for his services.

    Now Boldin on the other hand is a #1 and if there was a chance to land him then I believe the team would pursue it. I just don't see AZ helping the Niners out like that and also hurting themselves in the process with having to face him twice a year when the teams play.

  • joe gomez

    Medford.. I agree with you 100%, but he has been trying to pick starters but hes just been way off. We need to bring in Holmgren for the 2010 season as the GM, get rid of this bum McClueless.

  • West

    All Bad!!!!! Miami locked up Vernon Carey RT….

    We can just hope the same doesn't happen to Sean Jones…

  • #1 Fan

    Dumb fuck Gomez strikes again. Why on gods green earth would the Cards trade Boldin to us. You really are stupid, ignorant and useless when it comes to knowing this team. You just shoot off at the mouth like you know it all. You are a true asshole in every sence of the word. Please go crawl in a hole somewhere and disappear you douchbag mother fucker.

  • Medford

    Ur right Joe especially if we dont make the Playoffs this coming season. We would be dumb not to get Holmgren next year..

  • AXEGRINDER

    Any one of you who thinks McCloughan's only solid draft picks are Willis and Gore really needs to get your heads out of your asses. I'm so fucking tired of hearing that ignorant bullshit.

    Go ahead and ask me to name some solid picks over the last 4 years I fucking dare you.

    Gomez, you continue to profess your ignorance about the 49ers and the game of football in general more and more with every post. I can't remember the last time you had something positive to say, or anything insightful for that matter. You fucking hate on everything and everyone and it's really getting fucking old. "McCLUELESS IS A JOKE!!! ALEX SMITH IS A BUST!!! DORKY YORKY!!!HE COULDN'T EVEN BE MARTZ'S WATERBOY!!!" It's the same ol' shit every time and it's becoming like a broken record playing the shittiest song ever. If it were up to you we'd sign every over-priced, over-the-hill free agent we could get our hands on, then we'd all have to listen to more negativity when we're in cap hell again and we can't even afford to sign our own free agents.

    I understand you claim to love the 49ers, but it doesn't show in the least. What I think you really love is to hate on them. It's alright, you're a "glass is half empty" kind of guy. It's probably where you live. If California had an asshole it would be Sacramento. You're surrounded by speed-freaks and white trash. If I lived there I'd probably be depressed and negative too.

  • West

    DcNinerFan …. I agree when it comes to staying away from Marvel Smith (Pittsburgh) Tackle. He has been hurt over the years, we dont need another Jennings…..But Like i stated i would like to see use get Vernon Carey (Miami) RT ” young an has gotten better over the years” and Sean Jones (Cleveland) playing FS ….. I like Sean Jones over Jermaine Phillips for use because Sean Jones has played FS an in my own opion he is a better ballhawker, faster too…. We already have a good SS in M. Lewis…

  • angelo49ers

    hey what do u guys think if Isaac Bruce retires should we resign Bryant Johnson???

  • joe gomez

    angelo49ers.. Bryant Johnson isnt the answer, we need to get Housh or Boldin in here or we still wont have that #1 receiver. Man it seems like all the stud FA’s are getting the franchise tag. That sucks.

  • joe gomez

    Hey Julio, actually Sactown is pretty nice dude. I live in Natomas in a gated community called Westlake. The Maloofs live just around the block from me. Its really nice out here, but I do miss the bay sometimes. This area has grown the past few years. Theres a nice restaurant every where you turn. Airport and Downtown is 5 minutes away so it isnt a shit hole like Axepussy says it is. He probably lives with his mom in a trailer park thats why hes bitching so much.

  • joe gomez

    For all the TJ haters. This guy had almost 1200 yards receiving in 14 games. The next year he had almost 1400 yards receiving. Last year he kind of fell of but almost had 1000 yards receiving. Why wouldnt you want this guy in camp? Its all about competition and we want the BEST possible receivers to compete for the #1 spot. Personally out of Hill, Morgan, Bruce, or even Johnson, TJ will be our BEST receiver.

    Boldin is better than TJ but he will be harder to get. And to all you dumbfucks like Axepussy saying were going back to salary cap hell. Im not saying spend like Carmen Policy you dumb fuck, but we have ALOT of cap room, if we can improve our fucking roster why the fuck not?

    You dipshits are happy with our roster and dont want any FA's to come in? Bunch of fucking idiots, you ALWAYS want to do something to improve the fucking roster! Ofcourse you have to spend wisely! We got cap space bottom line! If we can get a proven starter, than we should pull the trigger! Axepussy, RedNeckQueer, and #1 Faggot im sure as hell glad you guys arent running this team. You guys probably love moral victories and are shooting for 7-9 records every year! Hahahaha….Dumb motherfuckers.

  • http://www.hotmail.com Ryan the 1st

    I am with Joe Gomez, I am not saying spend like drunken sailors, but TJ would be one free agent that I say is a MUST. We don't have a true blue number one receiver. If we sign him then we go right tackle or pass rusher with our first pick….pure and simple. After Mr. Glass gets the boot we will have WELL OVER 28 million under the cap AND that isn't even including Alex Smith. IF we resign him to new contract we save a lot of money. If we cut him then we still save a lot of money. We aren't going back to salary cap hell. TJ Houshmanzadeh is someone we need to be EXTREMELY aggressive with on the first day of free agency….period!

  • redneck9er

    hey joe gaymez, here is a little research for ya.

    1. a link for a consensus about the largest gay population in the U.S., there are more out there just google it.

    http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2

    2. several links talking about cali people moving to texas

    http://www.city-data.com/forum/texas/435065-alert

    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081

    So u see joe if u use the net a little u can get us shit straight.

    There is this great site out there called google, heard of it yet.

  • joe gomez

    Damn Ryan, I thought there wasnt any more Niner fans out there that makes sense.. hahaha.. I guess I was wrong. Thats all I was saying, without overspending for they guy, we need to go after TJ or Boldin, whoever to come in and compete with old man Bruce and all the youngsters. These dumb bitches want to roll the dice on the youngsters. Fuck the 7-9 and the moral victories! I want to do some damage in the fucking playoffs! The only way to that is to have some serious competition in all areas and get the best people! The people we have on the roster now isnt gonna cut it! We got to improve and improve and improve. Im not hanging my fucking hat on the draft either. Just look at Axepussy's daddy McClueless record! He hasnt picked shit in four fucking years! Gore and Willis. Period. End of story. We need to get some proven veterans on board and if somebody thinks thats not a good idea than your a dumb ass motherfucker.

  • joe gomez

    Axemoron said…"Go ahead and ask me to name some solid picks over the last 4 years I fucking dare you."

    Well I fucking dared you bitch! Hahahaha…who are they faggot!

  • joe gomez

    Hahahaha.. im laughing because of the ignorant statements you make Axegirl. I fucking dared you like you said.. remember?

    Go ahead and ask me to name some solid picks over the last 4 years I fucking dare you.

    Remember that?

    So who are the other picks your daddy did good on? Come on now. Oh and for the Sactown diss, where the fuck do you live bitch? Or are you too ashamed to tell us. Hahahaha….

  • AXEGRINDER

    I started a war? LOL. Damn you're pathetic. Anyone who talks the way you do on a blog has got to be a pussy. You must live for this shit. Don't you mean you moved to Sac because you lost your job at the hair salon and YOU GOT PRICED OUT OF THE BAY!!! I think that's what you really mean, whether you admit it or not.

  • joe gomez

    Axebitch <~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Is crying on the inside because his daddy McClueless only had 2 good picks in the last 4 fucking years!

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

    LMFAO! Tell you what Axegirl….. every time you challenge me or attack me, be prepared because im gonna shit on your ass everytime.

    Dont start a war with anyone if you cant back your shit up idiot.

  • redneck9er

    hey gamez i bet u creamed when u saw ur arny (The Govoner) in conan the barbarian with those short shorts and big muscles, move to san fran so u can fit right in the largest gay population in the U.S.

  • joe gomez

    Redneckcousinfucker<~~~~~~~~ Thinks Shitty Texas is better than the Bay Area….man what the fuck are you doing on this site saying shit like that? Hahahahaha.. you just dissed 49ers country saying that ignorant statement. Dumb queer.

  • joe gomez

    Oh so Texas dont have faggots? Hahaha.. your such an idiot.

  • J. Johnson

    Redneck. Hey you country fuck. Say shit like that will get your country red neck ass kicked. You diss San Fran than get the fuck out this site dude.

  • 5 Rings

    I agree with you Joe. McClueless had Gore and Willis and after that is pretty much a failed pick. You have to search really hard just to name decent picks. I hope we go after Holmgren for GM when hes done with his year off.

  • redneck9er

    i just dissed u and cali not the 49ers. So now i have to live in Cali to be a 49er fan. Go fuck arnold and releive some stress.

  • joe gomez

    Yea well dont diss McClueless too much because Axefuckers gonna get mad at you. Hahahahaha…Thats his daddy you know.

  • redneck9er

    damn i guess i touched a nerve. Joe must have called all of his homies

  • 9ers4lyfe

    Hey Redneck. You diss the Bay Area than your dissing the 49ers. How stupid can you be by not understanding that? Go cheer for the cowgirls because we dont have room for ignorant fans like yourself.

  • redneck9er

    i have nothing against a team i love. I just hate gomez and his shitty attitude. it is fun getting him all pissed off.

  • J. Johnson

    Hey you racist Redneck, dont let me catch you walking around the Bay. Il slap the red out your neck bitch.

  • joe gomez

    Hahaha…id really love to see that Johnson. Hes a fucking retard making that statement. Hes not a 49ers fan, hes a cowgirl spy. Get the fuck off the site bitch! Hey Axefuck, man I still dont have any names from you. Cant find them huh? Yea thats what I thought.

  • redneck9er

    lol

  • J. Johnson

    Yea keep laughing redneck. Say that again in the Bay Area will get your ass killed. Then whos gonna be laughing?

  • joe gomez

    Axefuck… picks like who? Still cant name any huh? Thats what I thought, your saying shit your cant even back up. Im glad you chose to shut the fuck up, because your straight pathetic.

  • redneck9er

    well joe im out and the next time u have a T-bone enjoy the cowshit on it from the state of steers and queers u prick. ill say hello to all ur friends moving to texas (If u don't beleive me just google it). and as far as being a bandwagon guy. the team ain't winning shit man. that doesn't add up. I have followed this team since the 80's. pretty soon u guys are gonna go cannible on this site cause u done chased off everybody else (Just in case u don't understand that comment it meant u bitch to much).

  • joe gomez

    Meant to say McCloughan has NOT hit on most.

  • MSouza

    There is no way that AZ trades Boldin to us. I wish they would, but it just isn’t going to happen. I think we give our current receivers a shot this year, even if Bruce retires.

    Mcgloughan has expressed interest in getting a down field threat, unless it is Devery Henderson, god I hope not, it will probably be through the draft.

    Everybody is right in saying that we lack a true number 1 receiver, but anything we do short of drafting Crabtree, maybe even then, will put us in the same boat. I agree with James that TJ is not a number 1, and though I wouldn’t mind his signing, his contract is going to be more than what Berrian got last year, which was way too much.

  • joe gomez

    James, on our roster with our WEAK receiving corps he would be!

  • #1 Fan

    angelo49ers.. Bryant Johnson isnt the answer, we need to get Housh or Boldin in here or we still wont have that #1 receiver. Man it seems like all the stud FA’s are getting the franchise tag. That sucks.

    How the fuck do you know that Morgan or Hill wont have a breakout year? Morgan battled injuries all year and was told he would have been the man last year if he were healthy if you followed the team like you claim to do so religiously you would know that. Just sign all these overpriced free agent has beens and we will go straight back to salary cap hell thats your answer. TJ is a good receiver but no better than what we alredy have you dumb fuck. What is so special about him? Please enamour me with your wisdom OH great Gomez!

  • #1 Fan

    Case and point the Bengals franchised their kicker yes their kicker over TJ? Do you really think they would have done that if they knew they could get great trade value by franchising TJ? You are a fucking waste of words on here and it pisses me off to no end. SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Forensics 187

    I heard our GM Scott on Sirius radio this morning. He talked about our offence and how it won’t be the most exciting thing in the world to watch next year. He said our offense would be like the Titans or the Ravens was nothing fancy, just plays to move the chains and would score fairly low as far as points. He said that our defense would carry the team. He did mention that he wants a WR that can stretch the field and a good pass rusher would be on the wish list come free agency or the draft. The Ravens and Titans were not the most exciting teams to watch last year but they did have great records and get into the post season.

  • redneck9er

    As gods hand stricks the hour, #1 Fan makes sense of gomez, he is stupid. His mouth does his thinking. I beleive as u said #1 that morgan and hill will have a great year. Seeing Morgan make some of those catches put a smile on my face. And also Battle will be healthy to, he is not the fastest or anything but a good short slant and middle field reciever. we got the essentials, on offense we just need the protection.

  • Loeher

    I think WR is some of our last priorities, Morgan played great, Jason Hill did show some good things, I expect Bruce to come back, and Battle has great cuts and great hands.

    It all comes down to protection on our offense, Rachal played good when he played last year. I think we should draft Oher at 10 in draft (if he is not there, then a Pass Rusher) and Clint Sitim on the 2nd round.

    Our OL with Oher, someguy, Heitmann, Rachal and Staley would please me a lot. Staley did fine as a LT (if you go ook at the stats, most the sacks he gave up were on J.Turnover. O’Sullivan. That guy holded the ball WAY too long.) but he played better as a RT.

  • joe gomez

    Hey redneck, done fucking your cousin errr wife already? Hahaha.. hey shes calling you again, says you missed some cowshit back in the corner where you usually fuck them sheep. The man who DISSED the Bay Area has returned huh? Man im going to make sure everybody on this site what you said about the Bay Area. What a stupid motherfucker indeed. Hahaha.

  • joe gomez

    I agree Texas9er, we shouldnt throw the whold bank at him, but if we can get him at a fair price we should do it. We need more competition at the WR position. That is all I was saying until Axebitch started crying.

  • redneck9er

    ENOUGH SAID AXE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • joe gomez

    Hey Axe.. go eat dick bitch. Im concerned about this team and I want changes for the better and if I see something that isnt right than I voice my opinion. So quit your bitching you fucking retard because im not going anywhere. As for you #1 Faggot. What rock did you crawl out of? Ive never seen your ass on here for atleast the last 6 months or are you the alter ego of Souza’s many personalities? Hahaha.. please give me a break. Yea, TJ WOULD be a fucking #1 receiver on our team you idiot. Morgan and Hill are still young and while they are improving are still nowhere near the talent as TJ. Bruce would be good #1 but hes just plain too old. TJ is just one of the receivers that I said we should get. And no Boldin wouldnt be impossible to get. He wanted out of AZ last year dipshit. Axegrindadick, yea il say it again bitch, McClueless is a joke!! ALEX SMITH IS A BUST!!! DORKY YORKY!!!HE COULDN’T EVEN BE MARTZ’S WATERBOY!!!” Yea il keep saying it and you know what, the statement is still true, and thousands of real faithful 49ers fans will agree to it so quit your fucking crying. Another thing bitch, I just moved here to Sac because of my job, I grew up in the fucking Bay Area and I dont claim to be a faithful 49ers fan, I AM a faithful 49ers fan. Ive been following this team for nearly 30 fucking years and when I say follow I dont mean that I try to catch a game or two. I mean I follow them 24/7, 365 bitch. So if I got something to say, believe me its going to probably be worth something. I dont say shit just to say shit. If somebody sucks and needs to go then Im going to fucking say it. You got a problem with that than thats just too fucking bad. Bottom line is FUCK YOU, and the motherfucking horse you rode on bitch!

  • joe gomez

    Hey Axedickgrinder, yea go name a solid starter the last 4 years McClueless has picked in the fucking draft. Dont name mediocre to average either. Im talking somebody who is worth something. Hahaha..
    Fucking retard, you must sucking McClueless balls in your dreams or something because if your happy with his picks than your a fucking dumb ass motherfucker. Go ahead name them? Hahaha.

    Willis and Gore, thats it motherfucker.

  • joe gomez

    Hey Axepussygrinder…Here you go bitch, Il help you out. Go pick out some studs out of these losers! Hahahahaha..Gore and Willis.
    Thats it period. Oh how about Josh Morgan! Hahahahaha…oh yea that guys amazing! Kentwan Balmer! Oh yea hes the best! Alex Smith.. fuck yea, going to the Hall of Fame! Hahahaha…you fucking make me laugh with your ignorance. Hey #1 Faggot, yea I havent forgot about you either pussy, im not going anywhere so dont be showing your ass on here once every 6 months mother fucker. We can go at it all day long motherfucker… Hahahaha.. all day long. Fucking idiot! Hahaha.

    2008
    1 29 Kentwan Balmer DT 6-5 298 North Carolina
    2 8 Chilo Rachal G 6-5 315 Southern California
    3 12 Reggie Smith CB 6-1 198 Oklahoma
    4 8 Cody Wallace C 6-4 298 Texas A&M
    6 8 Josh Morgan WR 6-1 215 Virginia Tech
    7 7 Larry Grant OLB 6-1 232 Ohio State
    2007
    1 11 Patrick Willis ILB 6-1 240 Mississippi
    1 28 Joe Staley OT 6-6 306 Central Michigan
    3 12 Jason Hill WR 6-0 210 Washington State
    3 34 Ray McDonald DT 6-3 276 Florida
    4 5 Jay Moore DE/OLB 6-5 276 Nebraska
    4 27 Dashon Goldson FS 6-2 202 Washington
    4 36 Joe Cohen DT 6-2 313 Florida
    5 10 Tarell Brown CB 5-11 192 Texas
    6 12 Thomas Clayton RB 5-10 218 Kansas State
    2006
    1 6 Vernon Davis TE 6-3 256 Maryland
    1 22 Manny Lawson OLB 6-5 241 North Carolina State
    3 20 Brandon Williams WR 5-9 180 Wisconsin
    4 3 Michaeil Robinson WR 6-1 226 Penn State
    5 7 Parys Haralson DE 6-1 253 Tennessee
    6 6 Delanie Walker WR 6-1 240 Central Missouri State
    6 23 Marcus Hudson FS 6-1 195 North Carolina State
    6 28 Melvin Oliver DE 6-3 279 Louisiana State
    7 46 Vickiel Vaughn FS 5-11 208 Arkansas
    2005
    1 1 Alex Smith QB 6-4 217 Utah
    2 1 David Baas C/G 6-4 319 Michigan
    3 1 Frank Gore RB 5-9 212 Miami (FL)
    3 31 Adam Snyder G 6-5 316 Oregon
    5 1 Ronald Fields NG 6-2 313 Mississippi St.
    5 38 Rasheed Marshall WR 5-11 185 West Virginia
    6 31 Derrick Johnson CB 5-11 197 Washington
    7 1 Daven Holly CB 5-10 192 Cincinnati
    7 9 Marcus Maxwell WR 6-4 205 Oregon
    7 34 Patrick Estes TE 6-6 280 Virginia
    7 35 Billy Bajema TE 6-5 261 Oklahoma St.

  • joe gomez

    HeyAxeadicksucker….Hey Michael Robinson! Yea that was McClueless best pick yet! Hahaha… Let see what else we got.. im TRYING to help you out here.. where are the good picks at? Hmmmm… Lets see.. let me look again…Hmmmm….Hahahaha…Fucking Brandon Williams! hahaha… Hey how about….Rasheed Marshall! Yea! I hear he was a QB in college too! You know how McClueless likes those QB’s in college who can play WR or RB also! Hahahaha… Well I dont know what to tell you faggot, McClueless is a joke and im so sorry you dont see that, Hahahaha.. your suck a fucking idiot you make me laugh dude. Hahaha.

  • redneck9er

    joe u idiot. u know u just proved axe’s point. DUMBASS!!!!

  • redneck9er

    hey Joe just thought of something that may help. Try talking to ur Dr. about some medication for Menstration.

  • joe gomez

    #1 Fan <———- is really a Cowgirl fan invading the site. This homo is trying to spy on us! Hahahaha… Axebitch, man I havent had no problems with you in awhile, but now youve started another war with me because ive disrespected your daddy McClueless…. Hahaha.. this is gonna be a fun off season! Hahaha.

    Im still waiting on the “great” picks by your daddy pussy! Hahaha.

    Hey Souza, if I were to bet, #1 Pussy is probably you, but you know what, itll be fun to go at it with your alter ego… Hahaha..

    Bring it on pussies!

  • Julio

    AX, you think Sacramento is Bad, try living in Houston, texas, it is the biggest shithole this side of the missisipi. The people in Houston are the biggest whitetrash rednecks, and jerks you wil ever meet, they are stuck up and are very uptight. It is pure Hell!!! Being a 49er fan down here is unbelievable, and their is a reneck cowboy fan driving a ford truck for every square mile. If you come to Texas avoid Houston at all costs and wear you 49ers jersey to show these wrestling watching-Hillbillies what class is all about. Their are more 49er fans in West Texas, and south Texas, Houston, east texas and the north part of the state is Cowgirl hillbilly loving country, I hate it!! I can relate to Gomez’s negativity I live in a depressing shithole too! This os one shitty year for Free agents that’s all I got to say, their not shit out their, I guess the only choice is building through the draft. I wish their was a big time playmaking receiver available, Housh from Cinci, is good but we need a receiver who whenever they touch the ball somethin will always happen. I hope we get a big receiver in the draft. Is their any taller athletic receivers available in the draft that will be avilable for us.

  • joe gomez

    Hey Rednecker.. hey I think your cousin..oops I mean your wife called up, she said your not done with your chores yet. Still alot of cowshit in the backyard you need to pick up… Hahahaha… Prove what bitch? Axeapussy, isnt proving shit. Gore and Willis were his daddy’s only good picks. He claims theres more so I helpfully gave him the list. So why dont you help him out like a good little Queer from Texas….HEEEEEEEE HAAAAAAAW!…….and pick out the other good picks why dont ya! Its kind of hard, I cant find any… can you help him out right quick there cowgirl? PAAA-TING! ….. Hey you got more of that chewing tobacca? Yea how bout Billy Bajema? Yea that right there is a great pick now isnt it boy! Hell yeah! Hahahaha.

  • joe gomez

    Hey Rednecker.. Oh yea Battles gonna have a GREAT season! hahaha..the guys not a true WR dumbass. Never was never will. Morgan is coming along, but had a better preseason than regular season. Missed a few games and had alot of crucial drops. Hill I admit is coming along, but still not close to being #1. We NEED a #1 bad and like James said, if we can get Boldin that would be sweet.

    Anyways Rednecker, when did you join the bandwagon anyway? I know the Cowgirls suck, but damn! Hahaha. Make sure you know your shit if your going to type something on here. I mean saying something stupid like.. “Battles gonna have a great year!” Shit like that will get rocks thrown at you by the Niner faithfuls…. Hahaha..

  • redneck9er

    stoopid shit is all i got to say. As far as Julio living in houston, visit the galleria area man. a bunch of rich as forgners. U know it is funny, how all these people from cali are moving here to texas. as far as cow shit, there will be a little extra on ur next t-bone (u know a beef steak from a steer that shit the cow shit im supposedly cleaning out of my back yard) or do you only eat cabrito meat (Goat Meat just incase ur to high class or dumbass to know).

  • joe gomez

    Hey RedneckQueer… Ive been to all parts in Texas. Its true nothing but Steers and Queers. Hahaha… go to the Cowgirl site dickhead, this is for the West Coast 49ers fans bitch. Fuck Texas, I dont hear anyone moving to that fucked up state. California is the place to be, thats why everyone is jumping on the bandwagon just like your bitch ass… Hahahaha.

  • joe gomez

    Go ahead and ask me to name some solid picks over the last 4 years I fucking dare you.

    Hahaha..still waiting Axedipshit, name the picks! Who did your daddy pick besides Gore and Willis that is doing wonders for the 49ers? There isnt none dumbfuck! Man im gonna ride your stupid ass from now on for starting a war with bitch! Its gonna be on big time. Come on motherfucker say something stupid again so I can laugh at your ignorant ass. Sacramento a shit hole? Hahahaha… just because your living in a trailer park mother fucker dont disrespect Sacramento. Hahaha…and #1 faggot, Souza, or whatever your name is why you so quiet all of a sudden? Il run circles around you bitches when comes to my Niners, so bring it on dipshits!

  • BIlly

    Hey Joe I dont think TJ is a #1 Receiver and he is up there in age, although I do agree we need a #1 Receiver I hope we somehow get Crabtree or he falls to us I would be glad, Morgan and Hill are good WR and have potential to Emerge like Breaston did for the Cardinals or better but we need a true blue #1 to draw double team, Bruce is good but he lacks speed due to age and I dont think hell be as effective because he no longer has Martz system to his benefit

    Again to FS market Id love McAlister of Huff out of FA I have to continue to say that I think Huff is like Vernon Davis his potential hasnt been tapped yet and ironically he was picked after Vernon

  • joe gomez

    Billy, we dont have many choices. Why not bring him in and compete? Couldnt hurt, the mans put up some very good numbers hasnt he?

  • AXEGRINDER

    Wow….you just typed your little fingers to the bone and still managed to prove what a pathetic loser you are. Go ahead and call people names like a 6 year old….I could care less. You obviously do care or else you would not have responded with 7 fucking posts in 30 minutes. I didn’t even have to read them to know that all you did was call names and say HAHAHAHA even though you’re crying on the inside. You’re not fooling anyone. All you do is come on here and post the same tired propaganda a million times a day, I ain’t reading it anymore.

    Tell you what…take a break from this site for just a little while. Take the lumpia out of your ears, put on your fake cuban linx and your Mercedes Benz hat, go out and get yourself some meth so you can spew out the obsenities even faster.

    Your opinion isn’t worth a squirt of piss. You’re a moron. It’s morons like yourself that’s making the integrity of this site slide downhill in a hurry. I totally regret the day that you found 49ersnews.com. Just read your posts and you’ll see what I mean.

    That’s it, I’m DONE with this exchange.

  • joe gomez

    Ummmmm.. well yeah bitch you got it half right. Some of my businesses are Salon and Spas in Sacramento. I am also a sworn State Peace Officer so thank you since your taxes pay one of my salaries. You do pay taxes dont you? Or do you drink beer and fuck your cousins in that trash trailer park you call home? Hahaha…thats all you got pussy? Man this is gonna be a fun year isnt it?

    But you STILL havent told me the other Good picks your daddy made?

    Hmmmmmm…. let me see.. how about Alex Smith? Yea your daddy struck gold there didnt he? Yeah dont worry they said theyre gonna give him another shot for the fourth fucking year. But dont worry I think hes competing for waterboy in case your daddy gets thirsty. Hahaha.

  • joe gomez

    Oh so your gonna diss Frisco Redneckcousinfucker? Man everyone on this site is about spit at you now..hahahaha. Dissing the Bay Area?

    Man now your one dumb retard for doing that! Hahaha.

  • AXEGRINDER

    Yeah, I remember, you’re just not worth it.

    Solid picks and pro-bowl picks can be slightly different things….if we don’t pick a pro-bowl player with every pick the draft is a wash, right? You’re a front-runner. That’s all you are.

    Take a hard look at that list you put up there. If you know even half as much as you claim to know, you can find some solid picks in there, especially in the later rounds.

  • redneck9er
  • joe gomez

    Axefucker… who are the other picks? WE ALL WANNA KNOW!

    Hahahaha.

  • joe gomez

    Ok fuck the pro bowlers. Name me some SOLID picks? And if your right I will agree with you. Im just saying you got to search real hard. The mans picks sucks and thats the bottom line.

  • redneck9er

    so san fran having the largest gay population is a bad thing, i just said move there to fit in. get ur shit straight.

  • joe gomez

    Hey redneck.. go back to your cousin..errrr..wife and take her back to your trailer park in Texas and call it a day. Your not getting any love here in Ninerland with statements like that. You dont disrespect the Bay Area stupid! Maybe if you go back, study real hard and get that 8th grade graduation certificate, just maybe you will understand what you said. Fucking hopeless. Hahaha.

  • 5 Rings

    A redneck being a 49ers fan? That just doesnt go together. Hes trying to be a bandwagon fan but there is no way this guy followed the Niners. Cant believe that idiot dissed the Bay Area and has the nerve to claim to be a Niner fan. Thats just plain stupid on his part.

  • AXEGRINDER

    No shots at Frisco, I live in Seacliff. There are no trailer parks here.

    Solid picks? Well maybe.

    Joe Staley, Manny Lawson, Delanie Walker, Parys Haralson, Josh Morgan, Jason Hill, David Baas, Tarrell Brown, Dashon Goldson, Chilo Rachal.

    All these guys will be around for awhile, I think that makes them pretty solid. Don’t get me wrong there has been some whiffs too. All’s I’m saying is the drafting hasn’t been as bad as you make it out to be.

  • joe gomez

    Oh there you are Axefuck! Man all those guys still have question marks beside their names. Maybe and thats a big maybe Staley and Morgan are okay picks at best. Others are still in question. See thats the difference between you and I Axedick. I dont settle for mediocre, I expect better. McClueless (your daddy) is not capable. We need Holmgren as GM or anybody who knows talent. Your trying real hard to see the brighter side of the picks he made. The truth is, I agree with you, there are SOME who might turn out to be good picks. But the MAJORITY of his picks? A fucking waste.

  • joe gomez

    Seacliff huh? LOL, oh yea, thats paradise dude…Hahaha.

  • J. Johnson

    I agree with Joe, overall im not happy with McCloughans picks the past four years. Hes hit on most and got little right. We need some better football minds upstairs. I hope Holmgren does come on board as GM. That would definitely be an upgrade from this idiot McCloughan.
    Just like the QB situation we need competition in the WR department by signing a veteran name. I dont care if its TJ, Boldin, Ocho Cinco, anybody whos willing to come in and join us. Old man Isaac and all those youngsters is just not gonna cut it. As far as the QB situation goes, I sure hope we get somebody in to compete with Hill not named Alex. Garcia is not the future but atleast he will push Hill more than
    Alex can. Alex is a bust and I hope we release him. Hes been a big headache to watch the past several years. I never knew of a team to give a guy so many years to prove themselves.

  • joe gomez

    McCloughan hasnt hit on most his picks. Gore and Willis is his picks but after that there isnt much there. I agree with the rest of the things you said.

  • joe gomez

    Yea redneck..go back and shovel that cowshit you fucking cowgirl. Quit spying on us 49ers fans dipshit.

  • AXEGRINDER

    Do you even know where Seacliff is? LOL. In case you don’t, just hear this: You couldn’t cut enough hair or write enough parking tickets at the state capital to ever afford to live here. You’re all show and no go. Keep maxing out that credit card buddy, it won’t help. You’ll always be a loser.

    Redneck9er is right about this: Pretty soon the only one you will talk to is yourself because all the self-respecting Niner fans on here don’t want to listen to your ignorance. I’ve seen alot of people go since you showed up. I’ve been here a hell of alot longer than you, so I know.

  • AXEGRINDER

    Oh and J. Johnson And 5rings don’t count because everyone knows they are Joe Gomez in disguise. It’s pretty cool agreeing with yourself huh Joe? The only time these names come up is when you’re trying to prove some stupid point. Get a fucking life you pathetic piece of shit.

  • AXEGRINDER

    HAHAHA…LOL…just look at J. Johnson’s post at 7:58 and Joe Gomez’s post at 7:59 and everyone will know that they are the same person!!!

    Good one Joe, you just sold yourself out!!! Are you that sad Joe? I guess you are! When you make a grammatical error under one screen name you probably should correct yourself under the same screen name!!! LOL. HAHAHA you fucking douchebag!

  • J. Johnson

    Actually Axegrinder or whatever name you claim to use, I am my own person and have been on this site for some time even though I don’t speak out as much as you and Joe do. For you to think that just makes you look like an asshole.

  • joe gomez

    Dont worry about him Johnson, hes just mad because hes living on some curb in Sea Cliff. Hey dumbass living in the streets in Sea Cliff doesnt mean your a Sea Cliff resident. Hahaha.. oh by the way, I pay CASH MONEY for my Benzes and Escalades bitch so dont worry about me. Looks like you just posted 3 times in a row so it looks like your the dickhead whos scaring everyone away. hahaha…atleast my 49ers knowledge makes sense. Your knowledge DOES NOT make any sense to anybody. Just because McClueless is your daddy doesnt mean hes the man for the job. Also, I dont give a fuck how long youve been on this site, this site doesnt have seniority dumb ass so your really stupid to even suggest it. Do us all a fucking favor limpdick. Speak some REAL 49ers knowledge moron, and maybe just maybe you will make a little sense.

  • 9ers4lyfe

    hey gomez ive been all this site for quite awhile myself and for the record most the things you post make alot of sense. i can tell you are passionate for your team. although i dont agree sometimes on how you make your point, you definitely sound like you know alot more than some of these other so called 49ers fans.

  • AXEGRINDER

    Whatever Joe. Don’t try and cover your ass because you screwed up and got caught. You’re pathetic dude. I guess you’re a liar too.

  • joe gomez

    Thanks 9ers4lyfe. Yea this idiot Axefuck is gonna be hearing from me everytime I see his pansy ass. Has the nerve to call my ass out when I havent said shit to him. I cant stand faggots like that. Besides, he says some of the dumbest things which is the most irritating part of it. Damn pussy cant seem to get off McClueless’s
    nut sack. Hey Axefag… when you wake up from that tent of yours in Sea Cliff, come by my house, il give you a dollar for waxing my Escalade bitch. Hahahahaha.

  • 9ers4lyfe

    hey axe give it up dude, your talking out of your ass now. weve been on this site alot longer than you think so dont think you know what your talking about. gomez is right, you really dont know too much about 49ers football. and so what if you live in Sea Cliff, are you supposed to be special now? please.

  • T. Dawg

    Hey Niner fans, I dont really say much on here too but I read every chance I get. The past few months, I have noticed there was alot of bickering and fighting on here which is sad. Gomez, you know your shit I can tell, but you need to calm down with the profanity guy. Axegrinder, you are one big instigator. One minute you are talking 49ers football, next minute your attacking somebody. Dont tell me you dont. Lets just keep it 49ers talk no matter if somebody is bitching or not. I can understand where people get pissed off and bitch since weve been playing like shit going on a decade now. Its frustrating to lose every year and I can understand how the die hard fans get frustrated. Lets try to keep peace on here, we are all Niner fans. Now I said my peace, Go Niners!

  • AXEGRINDER

    Yeah I live on the streets with my computer and internet hookup. Fuckin retard. You talk about posting 3 times in a row? LOL. You’ve posted more spam on this site than anyone else combined. And spreadin’ hate doesn’t count as 49er knowledge. You got none. And a 7 year old Benz you can pick up for about 12 grand. That’s only about a year of cutting hair and handing out parking tickets. And an Escalade? That further shows you have no class. Prick.

  • joe gomez

    Hey T.Dawg, yea il try to keep the profanity down man. But I got one last thing to say…. Axefaggot is a motherfuckin dipshit. Man your 49ers knowledge is probably the worst in history. hahaha..

    Say something else thats stupid Axepussy because Im gonna fucking cuss your ass out every chance I get! Bitch ass trick..hahahaha.

  • joe gomez

    Oh driving a Caddy Escalade shows no class? hahaha.. now thats another dumb ass statement by a retard! Seven year old Benz thats right, thats my fucking commuter bitch. SL is in the garage pussy.
    Better than that 1987 Gremlin you live in! Hahahaha.

  • joe gomez

    Axefaggot <~~~~~~~ Thinks hes the shit because he lives in Sea Cliff. Hahaha.. what a retard.

  • joe gomez

    Anyways, im done playing with retards. NFL Network is saying we should take a good look at Sanchez. I say that would be a mistake. Hes not worth a #10. Just think if we do grab him and he doesnt pan out. Well have 2 top ten QB’s who didnt amount to shit. So I hope Axefaggot’s daddy gets this draft right. If he just gets half his picks right we should be ok.

  • joe gomez

    Oh and one last thing pussy, 12 grand just covers the deep dish chrome wheels bitch so dont diss the AMG. Hey tell you what, get that yellow 1982 Gremlin rolling and il race you, hahahaha.

    Ok im done with you bitch.. unless you got some other stupid shit to say, please do, I love dissing your bitch ass.

  • AXEGRINDER

    I’m the instigator? HAHA! I’ve “attacked” two people since I’ve been here, on of ‘em I regret, one of ‘em I don’t. Joe is the one calling everyone names all the time and when someone attacks him, all you Joe Gomez nutsuckers come out of the woodwork. You’re all Joe Gomez as far as I’m concerned. And I don’t think I’m special because of where I live, I just mentioned it and Gomer tried to call me out. But that’s right, you’re all Joe Gomez.

  • joe gomez

    Man you sound like youve been studying my myspace page. Hahahaha.. doing your homework huh? LOL… man I sure wish I can see the real Axefaggot but ofcourse you wouldnt have a site like that showing off your 1982 yellow Gremlin now would you? No pussies like you who lie about where they live and everything else wouldnt reveal themselves like that. So keep hiding behind that cheap laptop you probably stole, because its best you keep your ass hidden. You wouldnt want everyone here to know the real truth about you now would you? Hahaha.. fucking pathetic.

  • AXEGRINDER

    YOU ARE SO FULL OF SHIT!!! Honda Civic Joe? That’s more like it. I know you man.

  • T. Dawg

    Sorry to say my name is Tim and not Joe. Axegrinder what is your problem? You attack someone on this site and now that person is giving you hell. What did you expect? I may agree with the way Gomez communicates with everyone, as a matter of fact his language offends me. But, hands down has way better 49ers knowledge than you have ever posted, that is a no brainer. Most of the things you post absolutely has me scratching my head on numerous occasions.

  • joe gomez

    No bitch, you THINK you know me. Hahahaha.. so wheres your page Axedick? I want to check out that sweet Gremlin you got. Hey you got a pic of that cardboard box you live in at Sea Cliff? Hahaha.

  • AXEGRINDER

    How many screen names do you have Joe? Damn.

  • joe gomez

    Axedick <~~~~~~ Drives a 1982 yellow Gremlin and posted a picture of it on his site but hes too ashamed to tell us his site because hes embarrassed. Revealing the truth will permanently ruin his reputation..(wink,wink) yea he want us all to think he lives in Sea Cliff and drives a Beamer when he knows it is all fantasy.

    Cmon Axecunt, whats your page so we can ALL laugh at it! Hahaha.

  • T. Dawg

    Ok at first I was trying to stay neutral, but I am now convinced that Axegrinder is a total asshole. Gomez dont waste your time with this bum.

  • AXEGRINDER

    Yeah it’s all a fantasy…you got me Joe, douchebag. LOL.

  • joe gomez

    Douchebag? Wow Axedick, you sound like a true faggot. Sorry I voted against legalizing gay marriage. You forgive me? Hahahaha. You guys still trying to fight that in court right? Listen up pussy, im going to have my opinions about the Niners, your going to have your opinions. Have I EVER attacked your ass about something you wrote on here motherfucker? No I havent. You come at me like you did, then I guess me and you are going to have major fucking problems. Just remember that I have never said anything towards you before today. Dumb ass faggot.

  • AXEGRINDER

    I think I’m going to ban myself from this site for awhile. The ignorance is just too much. Hey Joe, I hope to see you at a game sometime….that will be fun.

  • joe gomez

    Yea mother fucker, tell me your section and seat number so I can break your face in bitch. Il dig the hole myself pussy.

  • joe gomez

    Yea ban yourself Axepussy! Nobodys going to miss your stupid football talk. You dont shit about this team anyway faggot ass.

  • redneck9er

    Hey Axe, I know I said I was gone but I just stopped by again to see if joe was still cussing people out and to my amazement he still is. they earlier got offended cause of the things I said about cali being gay and he is now calling u gay, what sense huh! dude just leave now and ignore the ASSHOLES! or pussyholes! which ever they prefer.

  • joe gomez

    Why dont you ban yourself too, like Axecunt is doing. Yea stay in Texas and root for the Cowgirls bitch. We dont want you here in Ninerland. Especially if you DISS the Bay Area.

  • redneck9er

    Come visit texas man football aside. As soon as I hear about it and tell everyone what u said about Texas. come on in. ur ASS will hurt. lol. I guess I touched a nerve huh, well have fun with ur “Butt-ies” on this site man. U now they make drugs for ur problem man. I’m gonna head on out and enjoy my brew, and my cousin who is ur wife. She just told me she was ur mom as well. enjoy arnold, too!

  • redneck9er

    Axe I’m out hope u are to. this site is worthless! But i must say it is fun making idiots like joe get pissed off and go crazy. A simple thing sets him off. actually it is entertaining, kinda like watching “COPS”. “Thats not my drugs.” “I found it in ur pocket”. Still it’s not mine”. HaHaHaHa! lol “I didn’t not have sexual relations with Monica Lewinsky”.

  • joe gomez

    Yeah Yeah.. whatever redneck bitch.. Go back to Texas you queer, and stay your ass there. Your just a Cowgirl spy who wishes you had a real team like the Niners!

  • Texas9er

    Paris Harylson, Tarell Brown, Dalanie Walker, Adam Snyder, Patrick Willis, Frank Gore, Joe Staley, Chilo Rachal, Josh Morgan, Jason Hill, Manny lawson, Michael Robinson, and David Baas. Yeah these guys aren’t probowlers but they are solid players. But the rest are guarbage. The thing with T.J is I don’t believe he is going to be worth the money for who ever signs him. He played with Chad Johnson so he never was doubled he had Carson Palmer as his QB. Now don’t get me wrong he is a good WR but giving him a monster contract for a player who has never been the # 1 guy, even in college. Spend the money some were else. Look in the draft this year and if not wait until next year to get a WR that wants that kind of money. If he was 25 or 28 than I wouldn’t mind but he is 31 I believe. Paying him 6 mil a year for 4 years doen’t make sence.

  • Texas9er

    If its cheap than I have no problem with signing him but with all the teams in the league needing a WR his pockets are fixing to swell up. If it was up to me I would throw the bank at Albert Hanesworth instead of TJ. That would be a better investment.

  • joe gomez

    Haynesworth would be nice too. Man we need improvements just about everywhere. I even want Deuce McCalister or Fred Taylor to compliment Gore. It would be an upgrade from Foster. Every fucking year seems like too many holes. O-Line, D-Line, Safety, WR, RB, QB.
    And people think McClueless is doing a good job? Its like this every damn year. For example, how long are we going to search for that number one receiver?

  • West

    Texas9er… Also looking forward to seeing Brian Orakpo, Evertte Brown along with BJ Raji DT…

    Get a nice look at these QBs… We should be taking one in a later round… Sing also going after a RB weighing 230 an up. Something we needed all year, "no more 3rd an short 4th an 1 Robinson up the middle for a loss."…. We are getting our own version of the "Smash an Dash"…..Also adding a FB….Im not sure if Sing will be looking to add his FB in FA or the draft…. FA FBs i can see us adding would be Weaver (Seattle), Richardson (Jets)(old) but knows Rayes Offense an N. Morran (Detroit) aka Gores buddy…

  • Texas9er

    We could probably take a FB in the later rounds of the draft or sign one after the draft in the college free agents. I don't think Weaver fits our style of offense he is more of a west coast FB. Richardson would be nice but It would have to be a one year deal. I don't mind Morris but since 2006 he hasn't done a great job.

  • West

    Mike n MD,…. I’m in need of some good 9er talk….Where u at? Anyone else been paying attention to the combines or moves around the nfl… Share some info

    So i see the raiders cut Gibril Wilson, could be good news for the 9ers… He is from San Jose why not stay in the Bay.. I cant recall if he played FS while with the Giants…Anyone recall? So we have my 1st choice at FS “Sean Jones” (Cleveland) SS that has played FS in College and now we can add Gibril Wilson (Raiders) to the list… Bottom line I hope we bring in a proven Ballhawking FS. Romans gotta go and i dont have much belief in R. Smith or Goldson….

    On another topic, has anyone been catching the Combine? OT Andre Smith could fall to us at No. 10…. He sat out because he a little on the heavy side, see if it makes teams pass on him!! At least he was honest, lol…..Thought it was worth words due to the lack of FA OT… Carey resigned with the Dolphines, would have been the main FA OT one on my list…

  • Texas9er

    Does anyone know if the linebackers lifted today. I would like to see how may times Brian Orakpo lifted 225. I would bet at least 33

  • West

    Texas9er…. Today was O Line and TEs…… (Monday) will be D Line an LBs…

    Tomarrow will be nice, (Sunday) QBs , RBs and WRs

  • West

    Pat White is working out as a QB today and a WR on a later date… "smart move"… Lets just hope he makes all his throws to there likings!!….They keep talking this wildcat stuff for him, I hope he gets a real shot a proving to be a legit QB….FYI he just ran a 4.50

  • #1 Fan

    Bryant would clearly be the most coveted receiver in a free agent class that includes the Bengals' T.J. Houshmandzadeh and the Saints Devery Henderson. Bryant played for the veteran minimum of about $760,000 last season.

    Hey Gomez was he or was he not on our team? Is it Scotts fault he could not act his age and not get arrested?

  • #1 Fan

    Pat White = Rasheed Marshall. Same school, Same offense, Same results in the NFL. If it looks like a duck…………..

  • West

    I dont see how the 9ers can sign T.J. Houshmandzadeh or Haynesworth…I just dont see them coming at a nice price… Scott wants to take care of the people we already have…"Smart Move"… contracts are coming up an we need to lock them up, V.D. Haraselen, Lawson put some away for Willis ect…. Scott wants to bring in 4 – 6 F.A….ones that come to mind would be FS,FB,DT an QB…

    Good example of not taking care of home is the Raiders, sign em 1 year an cut em because you cant afford them….

  • West

    #1 Fan… i hear your concerns on Pat White, but Marshell? No!! more of a Randel El… Give him a little credit…

    We are taking a QB in the draft, later round…Nate Davis, Curtis Painter, Rhett Bomar,Pat White an Harrell i do think could be good with time to sit an learn..

  • #1 Fan

    West I believe the main reason this team is having trouble suceeding is continuity. Nolan was a tool like Gomez. Singletarys style will far exceed what Nolan was able to accomplish with the same players. Confidence in one another is huge in the NFL. I watched the State of the Franchise online and they all preached about being a team and working together something that was impossible to do with "stay the course" Nolan.

  • #1 Fan

    Of that group I vote Curtis Painter.

  • #1 Fan

    Great sophmore and junior seasons. Terrible senior year. Will he be Drew Brees or Kyle Orton that is the question on him.

  • West

    Yea i didnt expect Painters senior year to be so off…They aint saying much about him during the combine so far…. White & Bomar are getting all the hype so far… Some nice throws

  • West

    An i agree with you, continuity will lead to suceeding, Sing an Company are on it…

  • joe gomez

    #1 Faggot.. hey dipshit.. i never said spend like there is no tomorrow. I ALWAYS said, we got cap space we can sign some FA's to help this roster out so we can get some competition going and weed out the mediocre players. Your such a dumb ass motherfucker, you continue to make idiot remarks about me when your the pussy whos looking like amateur niner fan right now. You dont know shit about this team bitch so quit it already. Hahahaha… please the tool? Yea, thanks, thats a good one prick, how long did it take you to come up with that one? LMFAO!

  • joe gomez

    #1 Faggot <~~~~~~~ Calls me "THE TOOL" because I stuck my BIG DICK down his mother's throat last night and almost choked her to death!

    LMFAO! Hahahahaha!!!!

  • joe gomez

    Let me clear up something to Axebitch err #1 Faggot or whatever screen name you are currently using. I said if we EVER signed TJ to come in to compete for the WR position he (in my opinion) would be the best WR compared to what we have right now, thus making him the #1 receiver. Whos going to be #1 over TJ? Bruce? Hill? Morgan? I dont think so. Now since your so stupid, you probably didnt understand what the fuck I was trying to convey. You with your 7th grade education from Trailer Park, Ca wouldnt of gotten that and I totally understand that… hahaha….As far as Bryant goes, yes I liked Antonio and no I dont agree with his stupid immature behavior, BUT, its not like we dont have anybody on our roster who doesnt have an arrest record. We were considering Vick at one point so how much of a factor does an arrest record play into playing on the Niners, I dont have the answer to that, but it seems like we say character is very important than we draft or sign somebody with a record, so it really is vague on what the REAL policy of the 49ers is. So #1 Faggot errrr Souza errrr Axepussy…. is that clear enough for you or should I spell out on your forehead with my BIG TOOL? Hahahahaha!

  • Joe "the Tool&q

    Oh West, just heard on the radio that the Titans are going to do whatever it takes to sign Haynesworth. Haynesworth wants to be the highest paid defensive player in history and I think he might get it. Also, they were talking about Ray Lewis being a sure thing to sign with the Cowgirls.

  • 5Rings

    Me too Joe. You are the man.

  • #1 Fan

    I hope my daddy McClueless does well in the draft or else hes going to have me lick his balls again and although I love doing it my throat is starting to swell up from all the dick I suck every night.

  • #1 Fan

    J Johnson, 5Rings, and TDawg are all the same person. Joe Gomez.

    #1 they are never on here except to defend his dumb ass.

    #2 Joe is not smart enough to leave a couple minutes in between their posts. I highly doubt they all just happen to be on at the same time.

    Gomez you ruin this site. You know nothing. Pundit should ban your ass.

    HAHAHA HEEHEEHEE LMAO you sound like a little bitch when you post like that. I am glad you amuse yourself.

  • #1 Fan

    Player No Yds Avg Long TD

    Isaac Bruce 61 835 13.7 63 7

    T.J. Houshmandzadeh 92 904 9.8 46 4

    Do you even have a fucking clue what you are talking about before you post?

    Yeah Housh is worth a big money contract (which is what he will be looking for)

    How the fuck do you know how Morgan and Hill will pan out? They both looked pretty damn good to me at the end of last year.

    Your football knowledge is extremely amature and poor and I am glad I am not the only one who notices it. Crawl back into your hole and please stay there. I am tired of making you look stupid. Oh Yeah HAHAHA HEHEHE LMFAO!

  • #1 Fan

    Gore is also 5 years younger and has played 4 less seasons dumbass. If you were the GM we would be in salary cap hell forever. You are a dumbfuck that just knows names and nothing about the sport and how it works.

  • #1 Fan

    So is Bruce and he had better overall numbers. You want to sign names that will take away playing time from our younger players. I will win you just sit back and watch what this team does. I fucking guarantee you they dont sign TJ or Deuce or even attempt to do so.

  • #1 Fan

    Our young receivers are studs. Im so proud of them, we already got old man Bruce so I dont want any other Veteran WR to come in. What for? Were set with what we got. Hell Morgan never dropped cruicial balls did he? Hell no he didnt! Oops he did?? Well my daddy McClueless said he never did so I thought he never did. My daddy lied to me? So I sucked his balls for nothing? Regardless Morgan and Hill are stars and just because theyre young they are going to the Pro Bowl guaranteed? TJ or Boldin? Fuck them, we dont need veterans, like I said weve got Bruce already. I like our roster the way it is. I just want to draft for the next 5 to 10 years and hopefully one day get to the playoffs. Free Agents dont work out anyway. Even though we have cap room, I hope we dont sign ANYBODY!

  • Joe Gomez

    I think we should sign Marvin Harrison, Deuce McAllister, Jeff Saturday, Brett Favre, TJ, fuck the draft sign em all we got the money so lets spend it after all they are veterans that makes a huge difference the other teams dont know what they are talking about they cut veterans their loss not ours.

  • #1 Fan

    Besides we already have veterans! We have Bruce! Hes the go to guy!

    Hes only 58 years old too! He has atleast 10 more years in him! How I know that? Well my daddy McClueless told me so thats how!

  • Joe "the Tool&q

    Hahahaha.. why you keep saying that dumbshit? Hahaha.. OK this is the last time. WE GOT CAP SPACE! WE CAN AFFORD TO SIGN A FEW FREE AGENTS WITHOUT GETTING RECKLESS!

    OK that was the last time #1 Faggot and if you cant get it by now then I dont know what to tell you.

  • Joe "the Tool&q

    Sorry to bust your bubble #1 Fruitcake, the 49ERS WILL SIGN FREE AGENTS whether you like it or not. WE WILL SPEND MONEY.

    So you can cry now or cry later. There WILL BE some FA signings. Maybe it wont be TJ, maybe it wont be Deuce but I GUARANTEE you we will go after some Free agents. Those are just some suggestions anyway. Bottom line is, if your happy with the roster we have now then you are in dreamland. We got the money and FA's are proven players. Draft picks are a dice roll. I dont like dice rolls. I like proven players. Saying that, Im not willing to give Nate Clements money to anyone ever again. They have to come in at a decent price. But whether you like it or not WE WILL BE SIGNING some free agents this year. You got a problem with my suggestions well thats too bad, get over it. They are just suggestions and if your gonna cry over suggestions then your the REAL fucking idiot

    on this site dipshit.

  • Joe "the Tool&q

    Oh so save the money for 2010 season? Hahaha.. you really are an airhead. If we can improve the fucking roster RIGHT NOW and we have the fucking money why would we wait for the 2010 season? Were trying to make the playoffs THIS YEAR fuckface, what the fuck are you talking about? Hahaha..

    Do you believe this guy West? Sign some Free Agents for the 2010 season, dont sign anyone this year. LMFAO! Thats got to be the dumbest statement ever made in history. Here, take my glock and do us all a favor bitch, your life is worthless.

  • #1 Fan

    Our young receivers are studs. Im so proud of them, we already got old man Bruce so I dont want any other Veteran WR to come in. What for? Were set with what we got. Hell Morgan never dropped cruicial balls did he? Hell no he didnt! Oops he did?? Well my daddy McClueless said he never did so I thought he never did. My daddy lied to me? So I sucked his balls for nothing? Regardless Morgan and Hill are stars and just because theyre young they are going to the Pro Bowl guaranteed? TJ or Boldin? Fuck them, we dont need veterans, like I said weve got Bruce already. I like our roster the way it is. I just want to draft for the next 5 to 10 years and hopefully one day get to the playoffs. Free Agents dont work out anyway. Even though we have cap room, I hope we dont sign ANYBODY!

    I never said anything about not wanting Boldin. That is a whole different animal of your stupidity. Why would Arizona send him our way? please tell me. OK 9ers you are our chief rivals why dont you take Boldin from us at a fair price so we can face him twice every year. Its OK Gomez says we should do it and he knows everything because he has been studying the 9ers for 30 years but does not know that the greatest WR to ever play the game dropped quite a few balls his first year like Morgan. Or how about that TO guy he never drops crucial balls thrown his way he sucks.

  • #1 Fan

    Log onto cbs sportsline and tell me that the Vick talk is over dumbfuck. The key word in that sentence was might and only because Singletary has yet to rule iy out and I believe he could make a difference in his life. And I never said I was not against retaining Bryant I clearly pointed out that Scott did find a number one and Nolan cut him due to his actions if it were up to me TO would have never left let alone Bryant because they produced. Dont twist my words you uneducated football motherfucker.

  • #1 Fan

    Free agents that make sense:

    Khalif Barnes

    Jermaine Phillips or Yeramiah Bell

    Fred Taylor

    look them up Gomez I know for a fact you have no clue who they are or how they might improve our current status.

    Resign:

    Isaac Bruce

    Takeo Spikes

  • #1 Fan

    I made a compairison about dropped passes during rookie years. There you go again twisting my words. The other people on this site are smart enough to see right through your tactics Joe Tool. Unless they are you posting as TDawg, 5Rings, or J Johnson

  • #1 Fan

    If you watched football you would realize sportscasters reference to that every time a young receiver with potential drops a ball.

  • Joe "the Tool&q

    Yea but to compare the Greatest Receiver of All Time who had great expectations when we drafted him out of MVS and use him as reference regarding Morgan, yea that would be a bonehead statement!

  • West

    Texas9er…..I think Weaver would fits our style of offense. We have all the tools to add in a WCO… Sings background (Walsh), Rathman, Jackson even Raye…. We will be seeing bits… I’m thinking our Offense will be looking alot like it was when we had Norv…

  • #1 Fan

    I am in total disbelief! Joe “the fucking tool” Gomez has yet to post that we should sign Harrison. I am sure he will soon enough though. Sign em all Joe Right? just give em all a blank check and back into salary cap hell we go.

  • #1 Fan

    Proof from just 1 post how stupid Joe “the tool” Gomez really is!

    Haynesworth would be nice too. Man we need improvements just about everywhere.
    Total contradiction here. How do we pay Haynesworth what he wants to be paid and then address all of the other areas we have issues in? Ever hear of a salary cap? Remember when we could not sign FA because of cap issues? Haynesworth is great but not worth it on a team with as many holes as we have to fill.

    And people think McClueless is doing a good job? Its like this every damn year. For example, how long are we going to search for that number one receiver?
    We had one. Remember Antonio Bryant asshole. Yes the one who just got franchised by Tampa. Not Scotts fault he got arrested or is it douchebag?

    Deuce McCalister or Fred Taylor to compliment Gore.
    Yes lets give money to Deuce. The guy has not played a full season the last 2 years and has bad legs. He could not handle the same role you suggest with the saints but for us he will be fine? Prediction if they were to sign him when he does get hurt you would be the first one bitching about how Scott fucked up again.

    You spew off at the mouth saying things like you dont know shit about this team when the reality is you dont know shit about not only the 49ers but football in general. Go fuck yourself.

  • #1 Fan

    I agree Texas9er, we shouldnt throw the whold bank at him, but if we can get him at a fair price we should do it. We need more competition at the WR position. That is all I was saying until Axebitch started crying.

    Not true at all you said he is a number one receiver and James told you that he is not and I agree with James and you remain fucking stupider than ever. I also agree with Axe. How many screen names do you have? Everytime someone calls you out this T Dawg character chimes in but disappears otherwise. Your a tool.

  • West

    Rob Rang of NFLDraftScout.com was kind enough to compile a list of the quarterbacks he has rated with draftable grades. Then, he noted what offense those quarterbacks played in college. Only six of 17 played in pro-style offenses.

    1, (First round) Matthew Stafford – Georgia – pro style
    2, (First round) Mark Sanchez – USC – pro style
    3, (Second round) Josh Freeman – Kansas State – 3-receiver spread, but often reg. snap
    4, (Third round) Nate Davis – Ball State – spread
    5, (Third round) Pat White – West Virginia – spread option
    6, (Third/fourth round) Rhett Bomar – Sam Houston State – spread
    7, (Fifth/sixth round) John Parker Wilson – Alabama – pro-style
    8, (Fifth round) Stephen McGee – Texas A&M – read-option
    9, (Fifth/sixth round) Graham Harrell – Texas Tech – spread
    10, (Sixth round) Nathan Brown – Central Arkansas – spread
    11, (Sixth/seventh round) Hunter Cantwell – Louisville – spread
    12, (Sixth/seventh round) Tom Brandstater – Fresno State – pro-style with some spread elements
    13, (Seventh round) Curtis Painter – Purdue – spread
    14, (Seventh round/FA) Brian Hoyer – Michigan State – pro-style
    15, (Seventh round/FA) Cullen Harper – Clemson – pro-style
    16, (Seventh round/FA) Mike Reilly – Central Washington – spread
    17, (Seventh round/FA) Rudy Carpenter – Arizona State – spread

  • West

    Joe Gomez…. As far as HB in the draft, Sing wants a HB weighing in around 230…A nice compliment to Gore, our own "Slash an Dash"… Some good names are Andre Brown, (N.C. State) 224 pounds and was the fourth-fastest running back with a 4.49 40. He also had 24 reps of 225…Rashad Jennings (Liberty) 234 pounds ran a 4.50….. Arian Foster ( Tennessee) 232 pounds ran 4.56….. Javarris Williams ( Tennessee State) 219 pounder ran 4.52…

  • West

    Texas9er….My bad Orakpo lifted today…….Orakpo put up 31 reps of 225 pounds, best of all the linebackers..

  • Joe "the Tool&q

    Thanks West. Hopefully well find that back to compliment Gore! Im still going to watch Clayton very closely though. He might be the one.

  • West

    San Jose native Gibril Wilson was cut by Oakland also….But i cant recall if he played FS as a Giant

  • West

    Joe Gomez…Im with you on Clayton, I see him finding a role somehow…..He's more of a Gore type than a smash 230 pounder…Good thing about our 230 pounder with decent speed…"No more 3rd an 1 4th an 1 stops" aka Robinson up the middle…

  • Joe "the Tool&q

    Hahaha.. man you and I think of Robinson the same daym way. He doesnt have very many moves and when he gets hit, hes down! Cant blame him though, he was a QB in college. Hes a gamer on special teams though but so was Keith Lewis and he got the boot. I agree with you on Jermaine Phillips and Yeramiah Bell regarding signing on as FA's. They are pretty good but not exceptional. We have too many "average" to "pretty good" players on our roster and not enough "very good" or "exceptional" players. If were gonna sign a FA if they arent exceptional atleast be very good. If they are going to command big money they better have a big name and a big resume to back their shit up. Phillips and Bell dont really excite anybody, but if it was up to #1 Faggot they would get the money.

  • joe gomez

    Man Im gonna love that Nickname.. Thanks guys!

  • Joe “the Tool” Gomez

    PROOF that #1 Faggot and Axedicklicker is the same person!

    THEY BOTH ARE SWALLOWING SCOTT MCCLUELESS’S NUTSACK! HAHAHAHA..Every time I critiize Scott they are the only ones who defend one! That shit is fucking hilarious!

  • West

    Joe Gomez…. yea i can see Haynesworth getting to much, time will tell if he lives up to his contract… Not with us i can careless…lol….Ray Lewis to the Cowboys, interesting.. Jerry never fails…They will still come up short come playoff time…

    We need to resign Spikes,

  • J.Johnson

    I agree with you joe

  • TDawg

    Don’t forget about me! I’m on Joe’s nuts too! Oh wait a minute, I AM JOE.

  • Joe “the Tool” Gomez

    Whos going to compliment Gore next year?

    This is going to be important since we are going with the run attack style offense. We dont want to wear him down. Foster did ok last year but I think we need to upgrade at the 2nd back spot to get that strong one two punch most running teams have. Robinson can not take this spot, hes good at special teams but hes not the answer to take that spot behind Gore. Clayton has looked superb in pre-season play but can he do it with the starting offense? Also, I hope his blocking skills has improved.

    Other options in Free Agency: Fred Taylor would be a good option to take that spot. Deuce McCalister is available too. Some people like #1Faggot thinks he wont be a good signing because hes been injured. Like nobody comes back from injuries? Hahaha.. this shows you how pathetic his knowledge for the game is. Gore has both his knees surgically repaired and if scouts and coaches thought process were like #1Faggot then where would Gore be now? Anyone remember the 2-Time comeback player of the year Garrison Hearst? Yes again if people thought like #1Fruitcake then Hearst wouldnt of gotten the shots he did and look how he turned out. Duece or Fred, either way would be worth a look.

    Draft a RB?: West this is your strength not mines. I havent heard any RB worth taking in the mid to late rounds who has a shot to contribute right away. Maybe you can name some possiblities. Im hoping we dont start the regular season with Gore/Foster because I think we need to be better that that combination. If we dont bring in anybody then I hope Clayton shines and proves he is the beast that we have been watching in the pre-season.

  • #1 Fan

    I dont agree, once a player gets injured theres no way he can possibly be good again. I dont like Deuce, hes been hurt, that means he will never be able to run. Gore and Hearst were never hurt where did you get that from? My daddy McClueless says Robinson is the man, he can get us atleast 2 yards a pop. Robinsons never been hurt yet so hes the man. I get all my info from my daddy, Axepussy, and Souza so I know what im talking about here. Dont sign Deuce!
    Hes been injured! Hell never run the same again!

  • joe gomez

    I never said our young WR’s arent improving dipshit. Hahah.. man you are stupid. TJ is a VETERAN idiot, does that ring a bell? TJ will improve the WR Corps we have now and if you dont think so than that just shows how small your little pea brain is when it comes to 49ers football. Ive studied this team for over 30 years bitch so dont tell me you got more knowledge..LMFAO.. your probably some pimple faced high schooler trying to talk shit knowing damn well you dont know what the fuck your talking about when it comes to NFL and 49ers football. Hahaha..hehehehe..LMFAO!

  • #1 Fan

    Gore is younger than Deuce so that means Deuce can never be good. Deuce is 54 years old and has arthritis. I got that from my daddy McClueless so I know the information is right. Mark my words, Deuce is 54 years old and he will never gain another yard.. ever!

  • #1 Fan

    Free Agents are worthless. I hope we take all the extra money we have and give it to Morgan, Hill, and Robinson! Thats our future!
    You watch McClueless (my daddy) is going to build this team through the draft! And its only been 4 years! Just give him 6 more years, you guys just wait! We will win the Super Bowl in 2015 with just draft picks you just wait and see! Free Agents are EVIL EVIL EVIL!

  • #1 Fan

    I never said our young WR’s arent improving dipshit.

    No you just want them to waste away on the bench like Nolan and give their playing time to overpriced free agents.

  • #1 Fan

    You dont spend the money just because you have it dumbfuck. What if there is a better crop of FA available next year? You are really dumb.

  • #1 Fan

    There were free agents the 9ers could have and should have signed but they all got franchised dumbfuck I am not against free agents just overpriced big name free agents that you are fucking obsessed with.

  • #1 Fan

    Notice how I have said nothing negative about Fred Taylor. Figure it out. I might even be on the Michael Vick bandwagon stay tuned motherfucker.

  • Joe “the Tool” Gomez

    Where have you been dipshit? The Michael Vich Bandwagon died already. That shit is over with. Dont you fucking listen and watch 49ers news faggot? Hahahaha.. so you think Bryant got what he deserved but Vick deserves a chance to be on our team? Your so fucking stupid is ridiculous! Hahahahaha.

  • Joe “the Tool” Gomez

    “I might even be on the Michael Vick bandwagon stay tuned motherfucker.” ~ #1 Faggot

    This faggot actually thinks the Michael Vick project is still a green light! LMFAO!!!!! Somebody please tell him the project is dead. I know he doesnt believe me. It has to come from his daddy McClueless. Daym dumb ass, listen to the fucking news once in awhile maybe youll be in tune with the team you CLAIM to follow!

  • Joe “the Tool” Gomez

    Even though Vick IS coming to the 49ers. You really think this guy is an accurate QB? Yeah hes fast and he can break long runs, but hes about as accurate as Alex Smith.. hahaha.. look at his completion % dumb ass maybe youll change your mind about the dog killer. But to think we were really gong after him? Man you really are stupid.

  • #1 Fan

    Have you been listening to our coach we are going to be a running team dumbass taking much pressure off of whoever our QB is. Your football knowledge is juvenile at best.

  • #1 Fan

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/11404532

    check the date on the article dumbfuck. It must suck being wrong ALL the time.

  • Texas9er

    I wouldn't mind the 49ers taking a look at Tank Johnson. He shouldn't cost alot and he would be an upgrade at that position. On my earlier statements I wasn't saying throw the money at Hanesworth I was saying if the 49ers we going to over pay a big free agent I would rather it be him that TJ because of the age and the production. But I hope they don't get either unless its at a reasonable cost

  • Joe “the Tool” Gomez

    All the Michael Vick talk is DEAD according to Matt Maiocco who talked directly to the 49ers top guys. You think Matt has a little credibility? Yea motherfucker ive heard of those guys, but I thought were saving our money until 2010? Hahaha.. make up your mind fuckface and did you just mention the greatest WR to ever play the game in the same breath with Morgan? You just prove how dumb you are every time you post something stupid like that.

  • Joe “the Tool” Gomez

    Bottom line is every 49ers fan but you would want to bring in more talent at the WR position. You are the only dumbshit on here that is satisfied with old man Bruce and the youngsters! What would be so wrong about bringing in TJ if he came at the right price?!

  • West

    WR Brian Robiskie looked nice today, Help’s that his Dad is WR coach in Atlanta…

  • West

    #1 Fan….Jermaine Phillips or Yeramiah Bell? I would rather have Sean Jones over both of them, simple fact is Yeramiah Bell isnt that good an older, and Sean Jones in my eyes is better than Jermaine Phillips… Sean Jones has played FS in college also…

  • West

    Tank Johnson DT would be nice, must upgrade unless they draft BJ Raji DT…

    Scott has said he believes our starting FS is currently on the roaster…Signs point at Goldson taking over for Roman.. I’m happy Roman will be unseated but can Goldson stay healthy an will he be an upgrade over Roman… I know in practice Goldson a Ballhawker but thats practice…. I Still hope they sign F.A. Sean Jones as a FS..

    Roman, Goldson, R Smith…. (Sean Jones is my answer)

  • #1 Fan

    Today is Monday February 23rd 2009 and Joe Gomez remains a bigger tool than ever. Have a nice day. :)

  • Joe “the Tool” Gomez

    #1 Faggot <~~~~~ Wishes he has a tool. He wakes up each morning and looks down and theres nothing there! LMFAO! Have a nice day!

  • Joe “the Tool” Gomez

    Yea since your 49ers talk is elementary you got to revert back to your childish insults huh? Thats ok bitch I can stoop down to your level and still make you look stupid. Hahaha.

  • Texas9er

    West… I read on a website that they will give Jimmy Williams a shot a FS. Its either him or Goldson.

  • West

    My “Shot in the dark”, Mock Draft… Joe Gomez, Texas9er, James ect. have fun wit it….

    Rounds
    1. B.J. Raji (DT) Boston College
    2. Jemon Meredith (OT)South Carolina or Michael Johnson (DE) Georgia Tech
    3. Rashad Johnson (FS) Alabama or Brian Robiske (WR) Ohio State
    4. Rashad Jennings (RB) Liberty
    5. Deon Butler (WR) Penn State
    6. John Parker Wilson (QB) Alabama or Eric Kettani (FB) Navy
    7. Curtis Painter (QB) Purdue

    …And no i dont have us taking 2 QBs

    ….. I have Jemon Meredith (OT)South Carolina playing (RT) Staley is straight at (LT)

    …….(Some picks are subject to change after Free Agency)

    Any1 know where our comp picks fall?? Rounds?

  • Joe "the Tool&q

    But Medford we cant sign TJ, because #1 Faggot wants us to save money for the 2010 season. TJ isnt worth it because if came in hes not worthy to be our #1 receiver. Besides, he says Morgan and Hill and studs anyway, they can take us to the promiseland right now.

    Hes probably right since he gets all his info from his daddy…

    McClueless.

  • Joe "the Tool&q

    Medford, dont mind the last post, just a little humor sent to my best friend #1 Fairy..errr Axepussy…err Souza..or whatever his/her/its name is at the moment…

    Yea man, I am 100% with you on that one. If Bruce or Johnson doesnt come back then we are stuck with these youngsters. We NEED to get a veteran receiver badly or we might be in some trouble. That is our number one need. Seems like its always our number one need.

  • http://niners Medford

    According to Matt M. Bryant Johnson and Dashon Foster will not be back and I read it’s only 50-50 that Issac Bruce will be back so right now are two starting Wr’s are Jason Hill and Josh Morgan that really means they better try very hard to sign Housh. I think Hill and Morgan r pretty good but they dont scare any defenses and they would put 8 or 9 in the box every down to stop r run. So I see Wr the most important position in free agency or the draft maybe if Crabtree falls to ten we take him he reminds me of Steve Smith.

  • West

    Im hoping we address our RT an FS situation in Free Agency, Because Rashad Jennings (RB) Liberty is looking to be a 1st day selection "2nd or 3rd round"…. He's killen the combines… Sucks because i was hoping he would be around in the 4th round…

  • Joe "THE FAG&qu

    Hey, im the 500th comment!!

  • Joes moma

    hey joe im back!! I know its been a little while, did you miss me. i see your still a big homo. i shouldnt have taken you off the boobe at such a young age. Joe ive got to remind you that you are a pimetime Bitch (incase you forgot). i dont know what this site would be without you though joe.. people end up feeling much better about themselves after they read your bullshit. Anyway joe, hope all is good, you "fag" and keep on keepen on… Bitch.. Fag.. homo..

  • Joes moma

    Oh and i see your still acting like everyone that thinks your a fag is the same person.. silly joe.. everyone see's your a bitch..

  • Joes moma

    i did write joe "the fag" though.. youve got to admit you set yourself up for that, " the tool"?? lol.. homo

  • Joe Gomez

    I think we should do wharever it takes to sign Marvin Harrison. We need a number 1 receiver and he is old enough for us. I like veterans whose best days are behind them because I know their names and then I can brag to all my friends that we now have Marvin.

  • Joe "the Tool&q

    Hey #1 Fan your fucking pathetic, why dont you try writing Santa Claus too while your at it..LMFAO.

    Hey dickhead, just because I make you look STUPID as far as 49ers football dont get down on yourself so hard, try Golf or some shit like that. Its apparent that EVERYTHING you say isnt working out for you so maybe I would just SHUT THE FUCK UP from now on.

    By the way, good post on my behalf. I WOULD welcome Marvin Harrison, if Bruce doesnt come back and BJ is certainly gone all we have left are youngsters so yeah, Harrison/TJ/Boldin.. WE NEED VETERANS. Who says hes a has been? Hahaha.. Your an idiot.

  • Joe Gomez

    I live in my own little world. I am insane. I know nothing about how the NFL salary cap works. I just want to sign other teams salary cap casualties so we can soon be in the same position they are forcing out the vets cause we cant afford them. I dont realize that there is no chance of us getting Boldin. I believe that the Cardinals will just hand him over to their division rivals at a fair price of course. I call others idiots and stupid because that is truly how I feel about myself.

  • #1 Fan

    Dear Santa,

    I would like a really early Xmas present please. The banning of Joe Gomez and his idiotic no knowledge mother fucking comments on this site. If granted I promise not to ask for anything further.

  • #1 Fan

    Matt Maiocco replied to comment from Just_B! | February 24, 2009 1:35 PM | Reply

    Question: But how do you have 35 million in cap space and not use it on anyone?

    My response: They'll sign some free agents, to be sure, but I agree with their apparent philosophy of refraining from spending money just to spend money. With franchise tags and players re-signing with their previous clubs, a lot of talent has already been taken off the market. –Matt M.

    Right from your boys mouth not mine. I told everyone on here Gomez is a fucking idiot and has no clue about football and how it works. Who is stupid now you fucking TOOL!

  • Joe "the Tool&q

    but I agree with their apparent philosophy of refraining from spending money just to spend money

    LMFAO.. Ive ALWAYS said that you fucking idiot. I said spend wisely, dont give NATE CLEMENTS money but we do need a fucking veteran WR ESPECIALLY now since Bruce might not be back.

    Get a clue pussy..Hahaha. Man you are a long ways away.

  • Joe "the Tool&q

    Go ahead and write Santa and your mommmy, im not going anywhere so you can just go ahead and shoot yourself in the mouth for all I care. Come here to Sac il give you my glock to do it bitch. Hahaha..

    Your so fucking pathetic it makes me laugh. You are trying to damn hard to make yourself look like you have a drop of 49ers knowledge but YOU DONT. Everything you said has back fired on you. You say DONT sign a veteran WR through Free Agency? Hahahaha.. Your the only fucking dumb ass whos saying that right now. Thats one of our GREATEST need right now ass wipe! Hahahaha.. Man you are stupid.

  • Joe "the Tool&q

    #1 Fan. I give up with this guy Joe Gomez. I have nightmares about him. Maybe I should just admit, I dont know shit about 49ers football. I thought we didnt need a veteran WR but maybe im wrong. I thought we could win with just the youngsters. I thought Joe was saying spend ALL the money we have but now I understand he said spend WISELY. Im such an idiot, I dont know why I thought that. My life is useless. Please god, please help me.

  • http://www.hotmail.com Ryan the 1st

    #1 Fan, what is your take on Housh? I think the niners might be keeping it hush, hush until the last moment. They did that last free agency period with Alan Faneca. I know, they didn't land him. However, they didn't even really talk about it him at all and then BAM they were one of the four teams that were REALLY willing to throw money at him. Housh is the one splash we should REALLY make because he is a true blue number one receiver. Morgan and Jason Hill are good, but I am unsure if we can rely on them to be number one caliber next year.

  • Joe "Spam"

    LMFAO….duuuuh…..hahahaha…..duh…..i'm a useless moron……hahahaha…..LMFAO……duh….i complain alot…..duuuuuh…..LMFAOhahahahaha……i laugh at myself…..duh…i have more screennames than the niners have capspace…..LMFAO….i talk to myself….i say spend wisely but when we get nobody because there is nobody ill bitch some more….duh….maybe i should become a redskins fan becuz that owner really knows how to waste $$$…..LMAO…..hahhahahah……duuuuuh.

  • #1 Fan

    First off TJ is NOT a number 1 receiver and has never been one even in college. Look at the stats compared to Bruce last year. Would I take him on the 9ers if Bruce does not return yes but with limitations. He wants a big contract that is why he is not returning to Cinncinati. If his value was so high why did the Bengals franchise their kicker instead of him. Even if they had no plans on signing him they could have slapped the tag on him and then put him on the market. Guess what they didnt. Why? because his value in the trade market is not that high. It is very simple you dont throw big money at a guy just because we need a receiver. You do what they tried with Bryant last year sign him for a year to see if he pans out if not you move on. Idiots like Joe Douchebag just want instant gratification with a big name and he is the first one bitching when they dont pan out. Another thing for someone who follows the 9ers as closely as he does why did Morgan state in an interview that he was going to be the man last year but could not due to injuries. I will find the article to prove his dumb ass wrong again if I have to. To sum it up TJ if the contract makes financial sense but if that were the case he will stay in Cincy. The only way he leaves is for big money and NO we should not give it to him. Fuck You Gomez the Tool.

  • Joe Gomez

    Today was checkout day for players. Here are some tidbits from the players as they packed their belongings and left town:

    –Morgan said he will take about three weeks of rest to allow his torn groin muscle to heal. When asked if believes he's capable of being the No. 1 receiver next season, Morgan said, "They told me if I hadn't gotten injured, I would've been the No. 1 receiver this year."

    And who told him that?

    "Everybody," he said.

    Here you go go asshole I deliver what I say unlike you. This is from Matts site again. The same site you said you respect in prior posts asshole!!!

  • #1 Fan

    Only an asshole would not hope for one of their own to succeed. Just sign a free agent and keep your fingers crossed. Yes I agree we will sign a WR in FA but not a #1 because ther are quite simply none available. If Plax becomes available in a trade then yes you would have your #1 but TJ keep dreaming you useless piece of shit!

  • Joe is nothing

    The only headz you have agreeing with you are your alter ego screen names. You're the pussy. You done run all the respectable headz outta here with your kindergarten crap. Only a matter of time before #1Fan gives up on tying to talk sense you numbskull. Your as thickheaded as they come. Only a straight idiot would talk on a sports blog about a plastic piece of shit gloc 9 he has. Damn your stupid. Your an embarassment to Niner fans everywhere.

  • joe gomez

    Plastic? Peace Officers don't carry plastic mother fucker so don't test me. Bottom line is your 49ers knowledge is crap is shot and your frustrated that NOBODY agrees with you. Your a fucking idiot period. Give it up bitch, you don't make sense on anything you say.

    LMFAO!!!

  • Ryan the Firsts Momm

    Joe Gomez, Ignore #1 fan, Joes Momma and any names he creates next, they are all the same person, I think personally they are Ryan the First and Bobby Boucher. These guys are really young high school turds-Cowboys fans talkin shit on this website. I hope Niner Pundit removes all you shitheads, because everything Joe has said is the straight truth, he tells it like it is, it may not be polite but it is the truth! We need a big time veteran receiver to complement the young talent we have. I am tired of all this stagnent shit, and us not going anywhere every year. Joe these young Cowboy punks need to grow up and go back to HEE-Haw Land and talk shit their. Joe these punks are probably some pimple popping punks who come on this site to "stir up the pot" as JAMES says! i AM TIRED OF THESE COWBOYS PUNKS! GET THE HELL OFF THE SITE!

  • #1 Fan

    Open letter to Pundit

    Dear Pundit,
    Please rid us of the fucking stupid ass clown we all know as Joe Gomez. He knows shit not only about the 9ers but the game of football in general. He twists peoples words and comments and translates them into something that they are not in an attempt to gain allies. When nobody feeds into his diarrhea of the mouth comments he posts under different names and is not smart enough to leave time in between posts to make it less recognizeable. Please Pundit please ban this tool, gag, asswipe motherfucker we all know is useless to the human race.
    Thank You

  • #1 Fan

    Marvin Harrison

    Was cut because he would not take a pay cut

    Is still involved in a legal issue that could be re examined at anytime

    Is getting old and has been injury prone

    Yeah sign him up great idea Joe Homo give him the big contract that he wants good idea get a fucking clue you TOOL!

  • DcNinerFan

    This is better than reality tv! Lol.

  • Joe “the Tool” Gomez

    Hey #1 Fag.. stop already dipshit.. your getting pathetic. Your 49ers knowledge sucks and you know it. Signing TJ would be a smart move and your the only fuckstick here who thinks otherwise.

    THATS THE BOTTOM LINE! Hahahaha.

  • Joe “the Tool” Gomez

    #1 Faggot… No fuck you dipshit. You ARE NOT a 49ers fan because you dont know shit about this team. TJ would be over Morgan and Hill if he came in. Ofcourse we wont give him ridiculous amount of money but we wont give him shit money either. We NEED a veteran WR in there and TJ will improve the receiving corps dumb ass! If you were so smart you would have people on here agreeing with you not named Axepussy or Souza… hahahaha… Have Medford, James, Pundit, or West agree with your analogy that we DONT need to bring in a veteran WR and are okay with the youngsters and I will shut my trap. But see, your on your own little world pussy thats the problem. Your knowledge is pathetic and I doubt you will ever have the brains to realize whats best for the 49ers. Bottom line is YOU DONT KNOW SHIT BITCH!

  • #1 Fan

    84-Morgan: Got the starting assignment at the X with Bryant Johnson out of action. . . . He was certainly the 49ers’ best offensive player. . . . Caught four balls for 68 yards. Made strong, secure catches in traffic, like a rebounder blocking out underneath the glass. . . . This kid can play. . . . He is easily having the best camp from a 49ers rookie receiver since 1996 when Terrell Owens came to the team.

  • #1 Fan

    James already agrees with me. TJ is not and never has been a #1 asshole.

  • Joe “the Tool” Gomez

    You are willing to give Morgan the #1 receiver role? Man that proves right there that you are THE dumbest mother fucker claiming to be a 9ers fan…LMFAO! Hahahahaha…!!!!!

    Yea hes the next Jerry Rice! Hahahahaha….LMFAO !!!!

    YOUR PATHETIC! Go crawl under that rock you came from and just die bitch.. worthless mother fucker.

  • Joe Gomez

    I agree I think Josh Morgan is going to get alot of looks working out of the slot. We all got a glimpse of what he can do once he gets the ball. What a bargin to pick him up in the 6th round

  • Joe “the Tool” Gomez

    James said hes never been a #1 receiver but if he came to the 9ers he DEFINITELY will be the man. Morgan WILL NOT beat him at the #1 receiver role. As a matter of fact, since you think Morgan should be #1 and you really mean that il make you a fucking deal right now.

    IF MORGAN GETS THE #1 RECEIVER JOB I WILL LEAVE THIS SITE FOREVER!

    Thats a promise #1 Fag. If we are stupid enough not to grab a FA receiver and Bruce and Johnson leaves and the #1 and #2 receiver is Morgan and Hill, I will quit coming to this site.

    BUT…..

    If Morgan doesnt become THE MAN, your pathetic worthless ass should leave this fucking site. Hahahaha… you know that will never happen because I dont think we are that stupid to have Morgan as a number one. We will see motherfucker.

  • Joe Gomez

    The 49ers believe they are set at WR for this coming year. That being said, despite all the positive talk about Jason Hill, the team did not want to ignore the receiver position in this years draft. In selecting Josh Morgan the 49ers have a player with a ton of potential who needs to buckle down, and become a heavy worker. Lots of emphasis will be placed on Morgan improving his hands as well as improving his routes becaues he has all the athletic ability he’ll need to compete at this level.

  • Joe “the Tool” Gomez

    Dont get it twisted #1 Fag, I think Morgan has some skills. He dropped a few crucial balls last year but yeah thats expected as a rook. But to annoint him #1 for the coming season? Man that would be the most retarded shit ever. But if thats what you want and thats what your hoping for than im afraid your the only fucking idiot here thats wishing for that…hahaha.. were gonna get a FA receiver and its only a matter of time. The way you think, well NEVER win another super bowl. We are trying to get to the fucking playoffs bitch, why would we have Morgan and Hill but the frontrunners without signing a true veteran? That is just plain stupid. But I guess thats how you think..your just a stupid motherfucker!

  • Joe “the Tool” Gomez

    #1 Fag <~~~~~Thinks Morgan is the next coming of Jerry Rice!

    LMFAO!!!!

  • joes dady

    whoever wrote that..'joe' is a fag.. realy joe that totaly didn't sound like it was you…. realy… your such a bitch.. WHY do you think that everyone who talks shit to you is the same person? come on man…

  • #1 Fan

    Wide receiver: With Josh Morgan and Jason Hill, the future looks good at split end and flanker. Isaac Bruce and Arnaz Battle figure to be back, and Dominique Zeigler looks pretty reliable. I’ve never believed teams need a superstar at wide receiver to win games.

    compliments of Matt M again asshole!

  • joes dady

    I must say though.. TJ would be a great pick.. if we don't get a reciever in the draft, we would have at least needed to sign one in free agency.. we should try to nab aaron curry, matt stafford, tayler mays, or even darius hayward-bay.. but joe… your still a fag

  • 9ers4lyfe

    Josh Morgan although a capable receiver is young, inexperienced, and is still trying to improve his game. A proven FA like TJ will bring veteran leadership. Bruce is on his way out so I hope we do sign Housh.

  • joe gomez

    Why don't you quit hiding behind all these fake names pussy and tell us who you really are? Haha. You probably are a lame dick high schooler poppin your zits in math class. Let's see who the real man is. Quit being a little bitch and come out of your hole. Hahaha!!!

  • #1 Fan

    Joe when you wake up this morning try to remember the doctor said to take two pills. TWO god dammit TWO.

  • joe gomez

    Your probably some teenage little dweeb working at mcdonalds. Hello sir may I take your order? Hahaha. Hey pussy I got a job for you motherfucker, wax my Escalade every morning and after that you can wax my mother fuckin knob! Hahaha!

  • #1 Fan

    As hard as it is for you to believe little Joey you really do have alot of people on this site that cant stand your sorry ass.

  • Bobby Boucher

    #1. Re-read my comment. I was saying the opposite. He's a former marine huh? Texas has claimed to be alot of different shit too.

  • #1 Fan

    He brags about it all yhe time. Hes fucked up big time. I catch your drift now on the Texas thing. Sometimes he posts under the names 5Rings, J Johnson, and Tdawg in defense of himself and if you look at the post times they are within a minute of one another. I guess they ALL just happen to be on at the same time. This guy is a fucking nutcase.

  • #1 Fan

    He likes to twist peoples words too. I vow to battle this know it all asshole to the end.

  • Bobby Boucher

    As far a signing TJ I am on the fence on this one. He has talent and he's still young enough, but with so few names in free agency this year we will have to overpay to get him. People freak out about this shit and get all worried, but Singletary will take care of it. You can bet your ass he has a better idea about what needs to be done than Joe "the ass clown" Gomez or Texas cowfucker4life. We will have a receiving corps that can win games next year. So what if we have to start the young guys? At least they will get better sooner than later by getting experience.

  • joe gomez

    #1 Fag still scared to tell us all who you really are huh? That’s ok little guy we all understand how scared you are so keep hiding these names like a good little coward.

    LMFAO!!!!

  • joe gomez

    Hey dipshit you tired of walking to mcdonalds everyday for work? My niece has a Barbie doll tricycle she can donate to you. Hahaha!!!

  • #1 Fan

    It was a boring day had nothing better to do so we loaded up the bus and took Joe Gomez and the retards to the zoo.

  • #1 Fan

    I post under 2 names #1 fan and Joe Gomez other than that I am innocent of all charges peace officer Gomez with the plastic gloc and gas guzzling Escalade.

  • #1 Fan

    I target nobody but you if you have not noticed. Why? because you think you know everything and put down others! Truth is you dont know shit about football in general and probably never played a down of it in your life motherfucker. You can assume that I post under different names all you want but I dont. There are a ton of people that cant stand your stupid ass comments and you have to justify that in your demented mind somehow so your alter ego post excuse is worth shit!

  • #1 Fan

    If I lived in California I would come over to your house and tip your wheelchair over you stupid prick!

  • #1 Fan

    Today was checkout day for players. Here are some tidbits from the players as they packed their belongings and left town:

    –Morgan said he will take about three weeks of rest to allow his torn groin muscle to heal. When asked if believes he’s capable of being the No. 1 receiver next season, Morgan said, “They told me if I hadn’t gotten injured, I would’ve been the No. 1 receiver this year.”

    And who told him that?

    “Everybody,” he said.

  • Texas9er

    All I was doing Bobby was giving my opinion. What is your problem with me. I haven't said one thing to you but you continue to talk shit to me. I said I was done a month ago. All I want to do is talk football. Why can't you do the same. The thing with you and Joe is yalls beef. I don't want to be invloved. So stop trying to start shit with me.

  • Texas9er

    What the fuck are you talking about. I have never used another name on here. I am not Joe or anybody else. The reason I talk about the Cowboys Is I can not stand that team and their fans. I have been tormented by Cowboys fans my entire life. I hate the Cowboys. Get that straight. I HATE THE COWBOYS. You guys have nothing better to do that start shit with people. This is the reason I blew up last month and said things I regret. Before that I had never said anything negative about anyone on here and you can look that up. It is taking everything I have right know to not start shit. Im going to be the bigger man about this and not say anything. If I was to use another name why wouldn't my picture pop up under a different name. Look, I don't want to talk shit to anyone on this site. The 49ers mean more to me than anyone will ever know. Bobby you have a problem with me and I don't know why. Let end this shit right know. #1 FAN I don't have a problem with you. You have good info on here. Just to let you know again, I AM NOT JOE GOMEZ. I AM TEXAS9ER

  • 9er fan

    Does anybody remember football?

    I want to read about the 49ers. Instead i get 400+ plus commnets by tools

  • joe gomez

    Why don’t you massage his groin muscle faggot you know you want to. Hahaha you sound like you want to swallow his nuts!!! Look Morgan is ok. He’s young and he’s still got alot to learn. He WONT be the starting WR so quit dreaming pussy. Yes I did play organized football. 4 years high school and with the Marines. I wasn’t in band blowing on a clarinet like you probably were. Your the one who probably needs a wheelchair you fucking retard. You know damn well you have more than two names! Hahaha. So who’s theresl you pussy?

    LMFAO!!! Your fucking pathetic

  • joe gomez

    Starting #1 WR I should say.

  • Joe "The Tool&q

    Man #1 Fan, take it easy guy, Morgan is pretty good but man I dont think hell be the #1 WR so all that ball licking is gonna be a waste guy. We will be signing a FA for sure. I hear Coles is available now so quit sucking that Morgan nut guy.

  • #1 Fan

    Its okay, if hes #1 or #100 I dont care, I just love doing it.

  • BAN JOE GOMEZ PETITION

    dozens of reasons to follow….stay tuned….

  • #1 Fan

    I vote to ban Joe Gomez.

    Pundit look at the ISP’s please just to prove we are all serious and that I am NOT posting under different names. Your a liitle bitch Joey.

  • #1 Fan

    15. T. J. Houshmandzadeh, WR, Cincinnati Bengals: He'll be looking for No. 1 receiver money and I don't think he's that guy. Somebody will.

    From CBS Sportsline. Chalk another one up for the fan. Joe stop twisting my words you dumb motherfucker. HaHaHa…… HeHeHe

  • Bobby Boucher

    No kidding about the thread. What are we trying to set a record for comments received? Free agency starts tomorrow. Hope to see Takeo and Alex taken care of any minute. Why are we waiting to dump Jennings? I thought alot of this would have been wrapped up already.

  • Bobby Boucher

    Keith Lewis is now a Cardinal. I hope "killa" dosen't live up to his nickname in Arizona.

  • Joe “the Tool” Gomez

    I vote to ban the little bitch they call #1 Fan. Also known as #1 Fag or myself or Axepussy or who knows how many names this bitch has. Your lame 49ers comments have proved over and over again you have no place on this site dick for brains. Hahaha… just admit your an idiot and ban yourself forever from here. Morgan as a #1 Receiver? PLEASE! Your fucking retarded! LMFAO!

    To be continued……

    Hahahaha.

  • Bobby Boucher

    Wait a minute…is Joe Gomez Texas 9er’s alter ego? He’s accusing me and Ryan of being the same person, he can’t stop referencing the Cowboys, he can’t spell, and he’s a redundant fool who makes me not want to come on this site. Texas is always on here, but I haven’t seen his name since this little fight errupted. Hmmmmm……

  • #1 Fan

    I am not Texas Bobby. Sorry. We all share the same dislike for the waste of human space they call Joe Gomez!

  • Joe Gomez

    Lets get something straight motherfuckers! I am a former marine who was discharged for being mentally insane due to inhaling too much agent orange. They may have taken my right to bear arms away but that did not stop me from going to the toy store. I now own a plastic gloc and am not afraid to use it. Ill shoot all your dumb asses right through the computer screen. Go ahead try me! I am the god of this site and nobody I repeat NOBODY knows as much as me. Get it Got it Good!!!!!

  • Joe “The Tool” Gomez

    Hey Texas, dont worry man, they think your me? Hahahaha..your right this is between me and #1 Fag errr Axepussy errr Bobby Bitch errr whoever they are right now. Your a bigger man for not talking shit to these dumb asses and I commend you for that. Me on the other hand, I dont mind, as a matter of fact it gives me laugh. Its fun and I love doing it especially if its towards a dumbfuck like #1 Fag or whichever name this punk his using. Yea motherfucker I am a Veteran so the fuck what? Atleast I served my country, all you served was french fries to go..Hahahahaha… you probably arent even a fucking US citizen, you fucking taliban bitch! Hahahaha..Bottom line is ass wipe your 49ers knowledge is so fucking lame, that is why I LOVE talking shit to you. Your “Morgan is the next Jerry Rice!” statements are fucking hilarious! Hahaha..Please give me some more, this is too funny.. LMFAO!.. your so stupid in a way its sad but then again I love laughing at jokes like you! Hahahaha…Please bitch lets keep this going! Hahaha.
    Too fucking funny!

  • Bobby Boucher

    #1…Who the fuck is Raya?

  • AXEGRINDER

    Yeah they’re definately waiting to the last minute to get rid of Mr. Glass. That terd is dead weight stealing money. He needs to get to steppin’. They can cut his ass anytime though, especially if they are not planning to spend a grip during FA. Maybe they’re waiting till he’s done nursing his vagina to let him go.

  • AXEGRINDER

    Lets do ourselves a favor and get back to football. This shit was funny for awhile now it’s getting really stupid with all these accusations with screennames and all that shit. Truth is none of us will ever know who posts under which name so it is futile to call anyone out. Pundit is probably laughing his ass off reading this soap opera BS. These are pretty boring times, the Warriors are crap and the Giants probably will be crap so Niner football is all that matters.

    I personally think they are either going to take Mauluga or Crabtree if by some miracle he falls to us. Then maybe a WR or a tackle in the 2nd. Depends what they do in FA which I don’t think will be much. Problem is the faggot ass Raiders pick before us and they will definatly scoop up Crabtree if he’s there because of this screw in the foot shit.

  • #1 Fan

    Bobby for some reason Orakpo is not to high on the 9ers list from what I have been reading. If Crabtree falls to 10 and we dont take him it would be a huge mistake but more than likely he will be off the board.

    I know we need another WR but not a big name overpriced one that we will regret. Gomez twists my words. He bitches on here about making the same dumbass decisions but contradicts himself by saying we should sign another veteran WR just because we need one even though there are no affordable quality players at that position. TJ is good but not a #1 and not at the money he wants. Joe just wants to continue the trend. I say draft another youngster and hopefully Bruce stays on for one more year. If you look at the stats his production was better than TJ’s last year. No more Darrel Jacksons, Bryant Johnsons, Johnny Mortons and so on and so on.

  • Josh Morgan

    I vote no on TJ!