Starting Quarterback Still Anyones Guess

Aug 11, 2008 68 Comments by Niner Pundit
This man is in charge of an NFL team

This man is in charge of an NFL team

Another practice, another case of Nolan having no clue what he is doing with the quarterback situation. I was reading some Niner news today and came across the breakdown of the reps the quarterbacks have taken with the first team. O’Sullivan: 7.5, Hill: 2.83, and Smith: 2.67

Last week Nolan was on record as saying that there were 15 practices left and each quarterback would get equal time with each team. Last time I checked my math 15 divided by 3 was 5 and J.T. is currently at 7.5…hmmm that just doesn’t add up. Here is are some answers from Nolan regarding the whole quarterback situation and don’t be surprised after reading Nolan still has no idea what he’s doing.

Question: Didn’t see Shaun out there with the second unit. Is he still in the mix?

Coach Mike Nolan: “Yes. I wouldn’t read anything into it.”

Question: Can we read anything into the fact that O’Sullivan has all the first-team reps since the game?

Nolan: “No.”

Question: It doesn’t seem like there’s any rotating going on . . .

Nolan: “There’s going to be a practice this afternoon. There’ll be one tomorrow. And we’ll see how it goes, OK?”

Question: Why did Shaun Hill not get any snaps?

Nolan: “Because of the rotation we have right now. That’s the way it is.”

Question: Will Alex go with the first team in the afternoon?

Nolan: “No. No decision has been made (about the starter). I’m confident we have three guys and we’re repping them.”

Question: Are you concerned with what the offense is going to look like when the season begins?

Nolan: “I’m concerned about every aspect of the football team, to be honest with you. It’s important we have a good offense. We have very good structure. But you go through a process to get to where you want to be. We’re going through that process. The lack of consistency is what everyone faces. It’s a normal thing.”

Hey Nolan let us help you out. Just put all three names in a hat and go from there.

Source: Matt Maiocco

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68 Responses to “Starting Quarterback Still Anyones Guess”

  1. Ninaz says:

    Adam49, first off learn how to use proper grammar douchebag! and a fonsy is a moron that tries to argue a topic with no proof. I have given you 2 dumbasses records and proof of why Nolan sucks as a coach but you are too hard headed to get it so i wont try to convince morons anymore. You say Bryant Johnson,Isaac Bruce, and Josh Morgan are stars? That alone makes you a retard. We have not seen what isaac or Johnson can do for all we know they can both turn out like Darrell Jackson. Josh Morgan had a decent PRE-SEASON game so now hes a star? hes not even a starter you fucking idiot! And what makes Michael Lewis a star? He was a hard hitter in philly but in SF hes done nothing. And Joe Staley and manny Lawson havent played enough games to be considered stars lmao its dumbasses like you that buy a Patrick Willis jersey and call yourself a fan. GTFO and come back when your posts prove valid points.

  2. joe gomez says:

    The only thing I credit Nolan for is he is starting to put together a pretty good defense with adding Takeo but thats not surprising when you came from being a DC from Baltimore. Sure he brought in Martz to try to fix the problem in offense but he cant do anything if he doesnt have the tools. The #1 problem is this QB situation and there doesn’t seem to be a quick fix for it. Some of us like Smith some of us like Hill. Nobody knows anything about JTO but he sure did look pathetic. The fact is Jim Druckenmiller would have looked just as good as these three. Alex will continue to throw behind and underthrow his receivers and hold the ball too damn long, Hill and JTO are career journeymen and nothing more. Also, Alex’s best friend just committed suicide so his mind wont be 100% for awhile. We need to find a Veteran somewhere on the waiver wire. Also, with a legend like Favre wanting to play again, I can’t believe we didnt even make a phone call and make an inquiry. Anyone know if Garcia, Culpepper, or Kurt Warner are available?

  3. Adam49 says:

    Hey fonsy,yes Manny Lawson,Bryant Johnson,Isaac Bruce are stars.That’s why we went out and got them.We didn’t go get them because they were bums.As far as Josh Morgan goes he’s looked like a star to me.And you say we haven’t seen what Isaac Bruce can do.Well if you were a true niner fan you woulda seen what Bruce did to Walt Harris last year.Something like 10 catches for 185 yards.Or maybe you should check out some film of him playing the last decade.Your an ignorant fool and im done wit your fwuckin ass.Did you just call me a douchebag…LMFAO.Goto some other site and put some other team down.I’m not the only one on this site that thinks your goofy.And niner81, Erickson’s drafts where terrible.

  4. Adam49 says:

    Check this little article out….

    Simple Sentences
    « Reply #1 on: Today at 08:19:57 AM »

    ——————————————————————————–
    Sometimes you have to go back to simple sentences to make things make sense. Defense Wins Games. Establish the Run. The Quarterback Controversy (and it has become that, not a competition as Nolan would have you believe) is what makes headlines these days, but it’s truly much ado about nothing.

    The 49ers have a defense that could be very special. Their special teams, aside from a couple breakdowns, have been downright special. They have a young, motivated, hard-nosed running back in Frank Gore, and behind him, good depth. They have two tight-ends that can block as well as catch, with phenomenal speed. Their offensive line, while not cohesive yet, has all the talent necessary to execute any game plan in the NFL. They’ve upgraded the receiver core to a level that might not break the top 15 teams in the league, but is still the best they’ve had in at least five years. So where does this leave us?

    The importance of the Quarterback position cannot be overstated, but what you expect from a quarterback can. Does anyone remember how the Ravens won the Superbowl a few years back? Was it with offense? It was an offense that did not turn the ball over. It was an offense that gave the defense a chance to shine. The offense held onto the ball long enough to keep the defense fresh.
    We all want the 49ers to be a pass-happy, high scoring powerhouse. We want the past back, and all of its glory. We want 1994, a QB who is sharp, who is having fun. Who puts the ball in the hands of playmakers, and the playmakers make good on their potential. We’ve been waiting for a long time. This offense (as crazy as this sounds) could be special. There is one thing that has to happen, and this goes for every team in the league. We have to win the turnover battle. The offense cannot give the football away. This doesn’t just mean fumbles and interceptions. This means 3 and outs. This means converting on 3rd down.

    This means Alex Smith. Smith had the only third down conversions in the 1st half of the preseason game on Friday. He was also the only QB to take care of the ball. He drove them down the field, and got them within scoring range, and was thwarted by play calling. Change two play calls and Alex Smith is our Hero. He is our clear choice for number one QB, and this whole charade is over.

    This is very obviously political. Smith gives us the best chance to win, but he isn’t being given a chance to show that. If Nolan can make Smith out to be the Goat, he can explain away his past failure, and make it look like a bad decision by McLoughan to draft Smith. JTO might look better, but after a year in the system, he doesn’t look that much better. JTO is not half as athletic. JTO is not a 49ers QB. He is just not very good. Worst of all, JTO turns the ball over. If he ever in a real game does what he did in the Raiders game on Friday, the defense will fail. They will end up on the field too much, just like last Season, and the 49ers will lose.

    I used to defend Nolan. I think he knows defense quite well, and that will pay off for years to come. I also think he has a higher opinion of his own intelligence than he deserves. He thinks he’s got everyone fooled. It’s a shame. He wants JTO to start. If he didn’t , Smith would get some of the First Team snaps. I feel sorry for Alex. One man, Mike Nolan, has ruined his career. Not out of concern for his team, not out of design, not even because it’s the right thing to do. Mike Nolan is looking out for Number 1. He has taken Smiths actions last year personally, and he thinks we (the fans) are stupid enough to see things his way.

    JTO was in trouble, he turned around, and ”Tried to make something happen” He was incapable of making a good decision, so he made a bad one. Mike Nolan is doing the same.

    Defense wins games.

    Establish the run.

    And now, thanks to Nolan..

    Pass the Buck.

  5. Ninaz says:

    ^^^^^Didnt read just so you know. Nolans a dumbass end of discussion!

  6. Ryan The 1st says:

    I agree with NINAZ….can someone tell me what the difference between Lelie and Bryant Johnson is? I sure can’t see much difference….both are getting paid millions to produce and help us win games, but all they are doing is staying coincidentally injured the entire preseason. SOMEONE tell me how they are going to establish a rhythm with ANY QB while they sit on their asses and do NOTHING? START MORGAN and Bruce…..at least they are practicing. Lelie should be cut RIGHT NOW! The sad part is that he could have been something special, but he wants to be a typical, lazy, unmotivated receiver that we seem to fall in love with these days. JT NEED A CLIPBOARD NOT THE STARTING JOB!!!

  7. Ryan The 1st says:

    Since WHEN does it take a month to nurse a calf strain and a hamstring pull? Both Lelie and Bryant are nothing more than CONTRACT MILKERS thuse far.

  8. eddie says:

    the question im now wondering how bad our line will be if joe staley gets injured and who will be out the door next year if we have another losing season this year,is it Nolan or Alex Smith?

  9. Medford says:

    I feel bad for Alex didnt hear about his best friend. Thanks for the info Joe. All we could hope for is JTO sucks agianst the Packers Sat i guess….

  10. Medford says:

    I agree with you Ryan Lelie is a pussy and Jason Hill couldnt catch a cold. We really need to have Issac Bruce start a preseason game he knows the system but not the QB. I was the Niners I would start Bruce and Morgan and have Johnson as a third WR and also I would keep Cam Colvin he might be special.

  11. eddie says:

    Since our defence is good and Nolan sucks as a head coach.why dont we make mike martz head coach next year or a offensive minded coach like al Saunders…….if we have a losing season?

  12. RCA says:

    You’ve had 3 years now with Alex…he hasn’t improved AT ALL. The problem is that Smith is not and will never be a quality starter in the NFL – he’s the system creation that everyone said Colt Brennan (whom we should have drafted) was. One thing about Brennan – he’s a leader, the ball comes out quickly, accurately, and on time…ALEX…drop…PAT PAT scramble PAT throw…dirt or pick!

  13. RCA says:

    There is…his name is Daunte Culpeper.

  14. RCA says:

    Adam49,

    PLEASE TELL ME…how you think Alex Smith gives this team the best chance to win? Have you not watched him over the past few seasons? Yes, Gore is a special back – but he’ll wind up being Earl Campbell or Eddie George if we can’t get 8 and nine out of the box! We have to have a QB who gets the ball out on time and hits receivers in good position – Alex hasn’t done that.

    I thought we should have passed on him and traded out of the pick when he was drafter. We were forced into that pick. We weren’t going to the playoffs with or without a rookie QB – so Rattay may have been the best option at the time. Now, we’ve paid a kid from a spread option system who ’s release is slower than Leftwich and who’s accuracy is worse that Brunell and made him a #1 Overall Bust…he cannot do. He works hard, he’s smart, he’s a citizen, but he cannot execute the playcall. He cannot deliver the ball, not because he doesn’t want to – because he can’t.

    We have three QBs not capable of winning a playoff game or even playing well enough to keep our offens respectable. O’Sullivan is the best of the three and he will make his share of bonehead decisions. But you can’t start Hill – he has no arm strength – you can’t start Smith – he can’t complete passes accurately – so unless you bring in a Culpeper or a Greise – we’re going to muddle through the passing game AGAIN and betray our Defense – AGAIN!

  15. Ryan The 1st says:

    Because Alex Smith IS the most talented of the three….PERIOD! When you have a suspect line and an even MORE suspect receiving core AND THE WORST OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR OF ALL TIME (one of the four Alex has had thrown at him). Hostler was PATHETIC. Now, because Martz comes in and wants the back up for the LIONS……THE LIONS…. to START??? GET OUT OF TOWN WITH THAT NONSENSE!

  16. Adam49 says:

    All we saw last year and the year before were butterfingers from out WR’s.They dropped everything that was thrown to them.You cant blame Alex for that.And you say ALEX…drop…PAT PAT scramble PAT throw…dirt or pick!Ya Alex had all that time to throw the ball?HE WAS RUNNING FOR HIS LIFE THE SECOND HE SNAPPED THE BALL.That’s how fat boy Rocky Bernard sat on his ass.Another missed block by our o-line.That’s not to mention all the plays that were taken away by Lame Harris holdin on for dear life.You cannot blame our offensive failures on Smith.Our whole offense was terrible.It wouldn’t make a differance what QB you put back there,if they didn’t have time to throw the ball the outcome would be the same.And to all these fools that wanna bring in Culpepper.Gimme a break.He had an offensive line his last year in Minnisota and he sucked ass.Not to mention that,he just sucks ass.were gonna have to make this work with what we got so quit your whining and put some support behind whoever starts.My only problem with Smith not starting(besides he’s just the better QB)is that if he doesn’t get a chance to show what he can do this year he will most likely be released.And when he goes somewhere where he can settle down in a offense,he’s gonna flourish and all you idiots will be kickin yourselves in the asses.Especially if he goes somewhere and wins a superbowl.And I personally think he has the ability to do that if he could just get some stability at the coordinator position.And that’s the reason I have jumped from(partially)the Rollin with Nolan bandwagon.

  17. Adam49 says:

    I’m interested in seeing if Nolan’s philosophy is to start O’sullivan the first 2 preseason games and then start Smith the final 2.And the whoever plays the best becomes the starter.

  18. Roscoe49er says:

    I lost all faith in Nolan when he went for the field goal instead of going for the touchdown against the Rams two years ago. You all know the game I am talking about. The division was on the line and with a 4th and inches, he goes for the field goal instead of trusting his team and o-line, which by the way was otherworldly that year, and what happened, WE LOST THE GAME and the DIVISION. I think the Yorks are just trying to throw money at the situation and sometimes thats not all it takes. Dennis Erikson didn’t ruin this team, Terry Donohue did. I am telling myself and all the other Niner fans that don’t hold your breath for the playoffs, but I believe it will get better. Hopefully we get Tim Tebow in the Draft and problem solved.