Niners Win Despite Nolan
Dec 15, 2007
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Shaun Hill improves to 1-0 for his career. The 49ers are 10-1 when Frank carries 20+. But all of that was almost for nothing, when head coach Mike Nolan went for it on 4th and 2 with around 6 minutes left. I’m still wondering what the hell Nolan was thinking, he kicks a FG there and they are up by two scores. It’s not like the kicker has been struggling. Nedney is 27 for 27 inside 50 yards. Thankfully the defense stopped the Bengals when they needed to to preserve the win.
The question everyone will ask moving forward now is do we have ourselves a quarterback controversy?
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Yea i don’t really see what that was about, and even if they went for it they should have just went deep, the CBs had nothing on Jackson. Thankfully the defense came up big, yet again.
I don’t think we have a QB controversy just yet. I believe we need to give Alex another chance next season and hopefully have him make a good comeback. That being said, I hope Shaun Hill continues to do what he is been doing and doesn’t let up. A win against a big Tampa team at home will be huge for the whole Niner organization and the fans. I really hope Shaun Hill stays the same poise and confident QB we have been seeing. A 5-11, possibly 6-10 record won’t be a bad way to end this disappointing season.
F all that. Alex Smith is a bust. He an over paid piece O crap. Shaun Hill is the real deal and the proof was in his play. Never has this offense been lead in this way by Smith and this is just Hills 1st start ever.
Im hopeful unlike most of you all here that Nolan is givin 2 more years, the time left on his contract. Id hate to switch to yet ANOTHER coach only to have more bad seasons.
Nolan was NOT the problem with the Niners, Alex Smith was the problem, a very highly paid problem.
Alex Smith was Mike Nolans biggest mistake, Shaun Hill on the other hand is Nolans great achievement well, Hill and Willis.
How can you give up on the youngest QB in the NFL so quickly? He went through THREE different Offensive coordinators. I don’t care who you are, at that age it will be nearly impossible to excel.
I guess Nolan doesn’t like a comftorable lead. I’m just glad that we won because I would hate Nolan forever if we didn’t. A WIN, YES!!!!!!!!!!
Shaun Hill played great, he almost threw a pick in the first half, but besides that he did great. He will be watched closely in the last two games of the season.
Darrell Jackson actually looked like a #1 WR for once, I really like how he played.
And Frank Gore looked like he did last year. I just hope he finishes the season with a 1,000 yards.
Firen…. Shaun Hill has played on THREE DIFFERENT TEAMS in the past FOUR years. One of the teams were the Amsterdam Admirals.
SO I dont really find him being with three different OC’s a good excuse. 3 different teams for Hill and his first start in the NFL EVER and he led an offense that is the worst in the NFL this year and made tham look better than they have really since smith has played with the Niners, give or take 1 or 2 games smith did ok with.
SMITH IS A BUST, LIKE IT OR NOT. Get over it, he sucks.
another questionable decision by nolan. heck, even the other team was wondering why he wouldn’t take a two score lead. we won, that’s all that matters though but the nolan situation will happen again and next time we may not be as lucky.
Do we have a QB controversy? No. What we do have is a QB at least for the rest of the season. His name is Shaun Hill. I can’t really say I beleive that Hill can play at this level consistently, or continue this level of play when defenses begin to adjust to him, but he has done what A. Smith couldn’t in 8 weeks or so. 200 yards passing a TD pass, rush TD, all escaped Smith in games that mattered. Smith has no rythm w/ any receivers but Battle, who is oft covered like stink on Doo-Doo. Shaun Hill hit nearly every pass catcher in stride at least once in tonights game. Ultimately this game showed not how good Shaun Hill is and what he may be able to do, but how shitty Alex Smith is. Smith is going to need a 180 in the offseason to become an average player. If you disagree with me, fine. But look at the production of his backups compared to him, and all the other inexperienced Qb’s in the league that have produced more. Kellen Clemens, Trent Edwards, Cleo Lemon, Tavaris Jackson, even Luke McCown made plays for the Bucs some weeks back. There are some Qb’s in this years draft that will be worth a long look. I dont demand we draft a Qb, but if there is someone right, I refuse to pass on them because ‘we need to give Alex another year’. If anything we should try and find ourselves where the Browns are this year, with DA and BQ. Go back over the game film of some 9ers games this and last year, and monitor Smith’s body language on the field. No intenisty, anger, no emotion really, and no characteristics matching any Qb pulling out victories for his team. As much as I want to say “Fuck Alex Smith”, I know that wouldn’t anybody, any good. So I’ll just keep him on a short leash. Really short. Chain too.
next year Shaun hill as the Starter! and Alex Smith as backup….trent dilfer can take a hike
I would love to jump on the bandwagon and say fuck Alex Smith but it’s only one game and I dont believe you lose your job to injury,but if Smith cant beat out S.Hill next year he may end up like Charlie Frye or David Carr.
lol i agree “true niner fan” lol
Hill makes good decisions, he doesn’t panic, and runs when he sees that there is just no opportunity to make a play. I say give him the last two games and if he looks as good as he did against Min. and Cin. then let the man have a shot next year. We acutally looked like NFL team for once this season boys. A. Smith will be fine, but Hill is just the fire under Smith’s ass that will bring his talent out. If not, we got Hill. Great win, feels real fucking good too!!!!
Boomer you listed Hill and Willis as Nolan’s two best moves. What about Frank Gore as a third rounder in 2005?
All the people ragging on Smith seem to have a very short memory.
Smith WON the first two games of the season, you know, the ones where he DIDN’T play HURT!
The rest of the season you can’t really evaluate him. It’s Nolan’s fault that he sent our supposed franchise QB back in before he was ok and thus doomed the season.
I do agree though that Hill was nice to watch and it’s good to have him as an option.
I say let Smith and Hill compete for the top spot in the off-season and whoever comes out ahead gets a shot.
After all, it can only get better, right (we’re NOT the Dolphins!)?
hahahhaha you almost lost to the bengles, LOL. U guys wish u had a coach like Bill B. LOL your team sucks, take gore off that “team” of yours and what do you got?GO PATS 19-0 BABY!!!
Teddy BRRRRRRRRUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I don’t question Nolan’s descsion at all. This season is lost already, we have nothing to lose, and Nolan went fot it on fourt and twoo becausen he wanted to see what Hill can do in different types of situations. Unfortunately Shaun Hill’s pass to Jason Hill was dropped. That could be a good tag team right there. The HILL to HILL combination.
That patriots190 guy is actually a niners fan by the way. There is no other possible way that that is a REAL Pats fan. He probaly doesn’t even know who they are playing this week. LOL I remember I pretended to be a Giants fan one day and everybody flipped that week. He is a pretender. He would never have even found this website without being a niner fan.
they are playing the jets moron
All you guys that think Shaun Hill is the savior think again. Look at the defense Shaun Hill was playing against, that would be the Bengals, who are ranked 26th in total defense coming into the game but in reallity if you’ve ever watched them play you’de know that they seem much worse than that. They get tore up week in and week out. We have seen a game and a half out of Hill and some of you think he’s the next tom brady. Not gonna happen, fire Mike Nolan asap and get Alex Smith healthy because he’s our man next year. But anyway it was great to see Shaun Hill lead the team to a victory which was definately something Mr. I’m as mobile as a treestump Dilfer couldn’t do.
LET GO PATS!!!!! LETS GO PATS!!!!!LETS GO CELTICS!!!!! LETS GO RED SOX!!!!!
19-0 BABYYYYYYY
TEDDY BRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!!
First thing I want to say is I missed the game and when I seen the score I threw my arms up and then I heard the espn anchor say the winner of this game uhhhhh wins the game it was a little funny but that goes to show it’s another bad season for us niners fans.
Second I said it before I like to see the patriots play, they remind me of how our niners use to be and hopefully get back to those winning ways, I don’t hate on them they’re the best team in the league by far.
Third I don’t want to make this into the mitchell investigation on here but how is it this dude use to work for the redsox and does this investigation and not one of those redsox players wasn’t mention and I’m not talking about some unknown pitcher either, it seems like he named dude just so he can protect the star players and the first names that came out of that report was two yankees star players.
The redsox is the most coming back team in the fucking league even that seems suspecious it’s like they’re going back and shooting steroid in each others asses during the games when they’re down, I never seen a team come back so much from being down ever in my fuckin life!
I’m sorry but I had to get that out but I’m greatful for the win, GO NINERS!
well were up 17-7 right now, WOOP!!!! GOnna be on our way to 14-0, and then 19-0
AND HOW BOUT MY BOY
TEDDY BRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!!!!
hey pats fan go eat a 8==================D~ ~ ~ ~
now gore isnt that the thing to do in San Fran?
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TEDDY BRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!
damn someone has a man crush on ol’ teddy bruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu! now stfu!
Pats are cheaters. Enjoy our Pick!
Alex Smith is a BUST and he will never be succesful in the nfl and everybody knows it. Every time hes out there it looks like hes never played the game of football before. I dont know if Shaun Hill is the real deal yet, but at least he knows how to find open receivers and step up in the pocket to let the outside rush go by. Untill they move past these nightmarish Alex Smith years, we wont be a playoff team. I know its unfortunate =/
I hope the Pats fan knows that 3 of his best players are Nor Cal kids. Hell, probably more. Brady, Bru, and Stallworth are all Nor Cal, Brady even admitted he wanted to be a Niner, and was disappointed when they drafted Rattay and Carmazi over him.
Wow, all these ” Alex Haters ” must be around 12 years old. Who else would hand the starting QB position over to a guy who played all of 1 1/2 games over 6 years….seriously, go play with your GI joes…stay off the computer. Any real fan of 49ers football knows that Smith is our future. Sure, he struggled, but he only played 3 games when healthy, had no OC, and still won 2 of ‘em. Hill will make a good back up QB next season, but there’s a reason someone plays for 6 seasons, 2 of which he was beaten out for # 2 by Trent Dilfer, and does not take a snap. He is not, and never will be a starter in this league. He looked decent against a very poor CIN defense. He also had a killer running game with Gore. We will see what he’s got against a good TB defense. Smith is still only 23 years old. So much potential. We need a good # 1 WR and OC to unlock it.
Shaun Hill is a leader…. Alex Smith is not.period.
If you look for what Hill’s teamates had to say about him you will see. For the 1st time in years the players actually feel comfortable around their QB, from V Davis to D Jax, everyone is more happy with Hill then they have EVER been with Smith.
Hill may not be our #1 next year but one thing is for sure, if we want yet another losing season… no matter who our coaches/coordinators are next year if Smith is out starting QB we will not have a shot at the playoffs…. AGAIN.
Smith=really expensive BUST.
boomer = really gay moron
this game really pissed me off acctually cuz it just shows that if Nolan is not a retard this guy should have been in weeks ago!!
Shaun Hill with 1 Win now already has half of what Alex Smith Accomplished this Year and More than Anything Trent Dilfer did in any of his starts so with that said I saw a very ready to go prepared Back up QB come in when opprutunity knocked and answered it…this guy is gunna be something special…to all of you saying look at the teams hes played an that those defenses are not that good then thats just stupid do you think before the Cinci game anybody had us picked to Win..of course not, but when Hill has been in there its a totally different Team and it shows on the field…look how Verno got involved an D Jax caught alot of Balls Frank Got going all because the Passing Game was finnally working they couldnt load the box anymore on us…I even think before the Fisrt quater was over Shaun Hill had hit 5 or 6 different recievers, and when things went wrong he didnt panic he was composed and turned something positive outta it… it just comes to show you how just 1 man can mess things up for a offense if hes not the right guy espesially at QB where you distribute the ball around…..this Coming Sunday when Hill Kicks Tampa bays ass then he will silence the critics and the QB controversy will officially begin….dont forget that guys like Tom Brady and Tony Romo both came in like this in similar situations off the bench and look where they are now…Just something to think about?
Guys like Brady and Romo were and are much better than Shaun Hill. I know we’re all looking for some glimmer of hope, but be happy that we at least got a 4th win. We drafted a guy who is still loaded with potential who could be our franchise guy. Shaun Hill will never be a franchise quarterback. I’m glad he played well and won us a game, but let’s not get ahead of ourselves.
ohh yeah lets not forget that in the 2 wins with Alex Smith this year the Offense was still stuggling and we barley won the Arizona game in overtime…Alex had his shot in all these years at QB and hes deinitley a bust for a 1st round pick ..and dont give me that hes been injured crap or has had different cordinators cause so does every other QB…those are just excuses like Alex used to blame for his horrible game against seattle….we are gunna not pay that money hes owed next year just watch…his contract will change and will use some of that excess money on a guy whos a leader and plays with heart like still playing with a fractured finger and not whining about it…a Guy Like Shaun Hill!
I’d say we have a quarterback competition, not a controversy. A healthy and legitimate one. One that I think Alex Smith will end up winning.
Jerry Rice said we need to draft a new wide reciever, and get another offensive coordinator. This guy is loyal to this team, he even knows our exact problems. Lets listen to this NINER legend and get better on offense. C mon ! when you have one of the greatest players of all time ( for the Niners and the NFL) telling you what to do, you better do it.
When Jerry speaks…I listen…it is Jerry Rice…you all better bow to him like I do!!
Okay True Niner Fan… you keep playing Madden 2008 and keep us posted, okay? We’re all anxious to see what you do with your franchise.
my cock hurts!
HERES HOW IT IS; A.SMITH IS TERRIBLE..S.HILL IS THE TRUTH…THERE I SAID IT …FUCK HIS STATS….HE WAS POISED..ON EVERY PLAY HIS FEET WERE PLANTED UNTIL HE HAD TO MAKE HIS PASS/RUN DECISION..HE WAS’NT ALL FUCKIN HOPPITY HOP LIKE OTHER QB’S I KNOW (A.SMITH, TRENTY PILFER) THAT MEANS HE CAN SEE THE GAME WELL AND IT’S NOT TOO FAST…HENCE THE GREAT COMP %.. THINK ABOUT IT WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU SAW A NINER QB THAT CALM IN THE POCKET AND SEE THE FIELD SO WELL…REGARDLESS OF WHO HE PLAYED, HE STILL MADE THE FUCKIN PLAYS THAT WON THE DAM GAME …………………..FINALLY WE HAVE A QB!!!! GO NINERS!!!!
AND HE DID THAT SHIT WITH A MASHED UP THROWIN FINGER!!! SHAUN HILL IS THE FUCKIN TRUTH!!! PATRICK WILLIS IS THE TRUTH!!! AND SO IS MY MAN NATE THE BEAST CLEMENTS!!!!
The last time I saw a SF quarterback do that, our offense was functional. I think that was last year. Can you remember that far back?
It’s really funny how peop[le still think smith is the future of this team. “He was fine in the first two games and he won bla bla bla” if i remember correctly, he still overthrew the receiver 80% of the time in those 2 games. And it doesnt matter that he’s the youngest starting QB in the NFL, he’s still had a couple years of experience to prove he’s not a bust. Hasnt done such a good job of that as of now
And in Alex smiths first start in the NFL, it looked like a pop warner quarterback could do better.
It’s also funny how people can say not to judge alex smith so early and not to lable him as a bust, but the same people are so quick to say that shaun hill is not the guy because he’s only played a game and a half
all im gonna say is that shaun hill is Jeff Garcia Jr. … plays exactly like him…
Big M, although our offense last year was by far more functional than this year, we still had a low ranked offense. and the reason we were not in the bottom was because of our running game with frank gore.
and DAN tom brady was never disappointed that the niners drafted rattay over him cuz they didnt…brady was a 6th rounder and rattay was a 7th rounder…and giovanni carmonazzi was picked a year or two before
will know who the real “shaun hill” is when he plays against teh Buc’s.i wont necessary plug him as our QB for the future yet.its only one game,and as we all know Bengals play “No defense”.so if hill passes the test agaisnt the big Bucs D.den we might have something to talk about ….
Shaun Hill maybe better then the tow a head of him at this time. But that is not much to brag about, one has a busted wing and the other is as old as dirt. How many Shaun Hill lovers out there anointed Barlow as the next coming, wanting Hearst to retire? How many anointed Rattay after his 300+ yrd first game? next we will be hearing Hicks is the REAL DEAL since Gore has only had three 100 yrd games?
For everyone calling for the OC’s head. What the hell do you think that will do to the offense? 4th OC in 4 years, just what is needed to put the O back on track. Consistency is what is needed. Or a whole sale change. Which means new HC, OC and QB. But the money is to big to let any of that happen.
yeah, I like that Hill won us a game, but he will be much more “battle proven” to me after he plays the Bucaneers. THEY have a tough defense. The Bungles have a pathetic defense this year.